[danfritz]

Ha great we finally arrive at the "Next.js React features" which basically forces everyone to use Next.js or an additional framework on top of React which now have to play catchup with whatever react - next.js think is "best" (for Vercels wallet). Expected outcome if half or the react core team is a Vercel employee.

Kinda new this day was coming, sad to see it actually happen

[meiraleal]

I'm not sure yet if I'm happy or sad with Vercel's destruction of React. After 10 years of React, I think imploding it from inside was the only way React could lose its lead. They achieved it!

Even tho we don't have a clear alternative yet.

[joquarky]

I'm old, but I still think that knockout.js is the bee's knees.

[dudus]

Svelte and solid are nice alternatives.

[harrisi]

This is why I'm sad about Svelte core being maintained by Vercel employees as well. They have definitely positioned themselves well to be in control of a lot of modern web development and deployment, but it makes me not want to use Svelte, SvelteKit, React, or Next.

Vue is the only main independent framework that exists now, apart from jQuery.