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orson2077 | 1 year ago

They’re using hyperbole to illustrate the point; don’t miss the point or deliberately try to derail the conversation.

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sokoloff|1 year ago

I would judge that someone falsely claiming that 14 year olds are being killed in sawmills as a result of policy changes they dislike is the one deliberately trying to derail the conversation more than someone who correctly claims "no, that is false".

carb|1 year ago

The burden of proof is certainly on the person claiming there's an increase in child labor death. However just because they didn't provide proof doesn't make the claim "false".

The increase in child labor-related deaths is happening and will continue as child labor laws are rolled back in states across the US.

_heimdall|1 year ago

The use of hyperbole is actually misses the point and derails the conversation.

If a point is valid and clear hyperbole isn't needed. Concerns over children dying in job related accidents or being made to work extreme hours or in bad conditions is a fine point. Children falling into sawmills just muddies the waters and will draw in people who disagree that that is a concern at all.

troad|1 year ago

> They’re using hyperbole to illustrate the point; don’t miss the point or deliberately try to derail the conversation.

Hyperbole is by definition false, its use illustrates nothing beyond the speaker's willingness to stretch the truth.

In this case, to make political claims. Ought we organise our societies on the basis of political claims 'illustrated' by bombastic falsehoods?

fifticon|1 year ago

We are already so high up this tree you can no longer see the ground. There, one more hyperbolic falsehood for you.