It's not strange at all, Ableton sucks. Anyway the different MPCs are laid out slightly differently but so were Roger's. He will completely destroy the competition if he teams back up with Akai. This especially includes Ableton. Which sucks.
It's strange because Ableton Live wasn't mentioned—the two couldn't be more different. You seem to have a bee in your bonnet over Live. One is a DAW, one is a pretty lackluster groovebox-sampler that pales in comparison to the old MPCs. How is someone going to deliver music with just an MPC? Nobody ever just used an MPC even back in the day, it was always hooked up to Pro Tools.
"teams back up"? Akai went bust. Akai Pro is not Akai. Nobody from the original Akai works at Akai Pro. The MPC isn't even the MPC anymore, it's based off of Linux. They don't need to team up with Roger Linn to know what's wrong with the modern MPC, owners are quite vocal with what's lacking versus the originals and versus contemporary workflows. Roger Linn should carry on innovating on his own.
As for "destroying" Ableton, I can only laugh. This'll be why the modern MPCs have a mode for controlling Live and can export projects to Live, right? Like I said, they couldn't be more different. The modern MPCs don't even have the modulation matrix of the 4000, nor do they have the capabilities of JJOS. The looper is pitiful. No PDC either. No MPE. No comping takes. No spatial audio, not even surround sound. I could go on.
That's without even getting into not being able to score with it due to no SMTPE like the old MPCs, and lack of PDC makes it a joke for scoring even using the VSTi (same problem with Maschine).
Shit-talk Ableton Live all you like, but nothing comes close to Max For Live from any dev. Anybody serious uses what they need, including multiple DAWs to take advantage of what each does best, hence the death of ReWire sucks as that means no more bidirectional sample-accurate audio and MIDI between DAWs.
Ableton Link only does clock (hence not suitable for scores), but at least Ableton has Link, and Akai Pro integrates Ableton Link into MPC; seeing a pattern here with Akai Pro following rather than leading like the original Akai used to? Akai Pro has a brand and is coasting on the history of that brand. The modern MPC is quite irrelevant in modern production, IMO. Not to say you can't make good music with one, you absolutely can, but it's not even as good as what we had quarter of a century or more ago in many ways. Modern MPC is a toy by comparison and is priced like one; MPC 60 was $5000 in ye olde money. MPC 3000 was $3,699 in ye olde money. It shows.
If the modern-day MPCs were so good, the old MPCs wouldn't still be changing hands for considerable money and wouldn't be highly sought after. Go figure.
hammyhavoc|1 year ago
"teams back up"? Akai went bust. Akai Pro is not Akai. Nobody from the original Akai works at Akai Pro. The MPC isn't even the MPC anymore, it's based off of Linux. They don't need to team up with Roger Linn to know what's wrong with the modern MPC, owners are quite vocal with what's lacking versus the originals and versus contemporary workflows. Roger Linn should carry on innovating on his own.
As for "destroying" Ableton, I can only laugh. This'll be why the modern MPCs have a mode for controlling Live and can export projects to Live, right? Like I said, they couldn't be more different. The modern MPCs don't even have the modulation matrix of the 4000, nor do they have the capabilities of JJOS. The looper is pitiful. No PDC either. No MPE. No comping takes. No spatial audio, not even surround sound. I could go on.
That's without even getting into not being able to score with it due to no SMTPE like the old MPCs, and lack of PDC makes it a joke for scoring even using the VSTi (same problem with Maschine).
Shit-talk Ableton Live all you like, but nothing comes close to Max For Live from any dev. Anybody serious uses what they need, including multiple DAWs to take advantage of what each does best, hence the death of ReWire sucks as that means no more bidirectional sample-accurate audio and MIDI between DAWs.
Ableton Link only does clock (hence not suitable for scores), but at least Ableton has Link, and Akai Pro integrates Ableton Link into MPC; seeing a pattern here with Akai Pro following rather than leading like the original Akai used to? Akai Pro has a brand and is coasting on the history of that brand. The modern MPC is quite irrelevant in modern production, IMO. Not to say you can't make good music with one, you absolutely can, but it's not even as good as what we had quarter of a century or more ago in many ways. Modern MPC is a toy by comparison and is priced like one; MPC 60 was $5000 in ye olde money. MPC 3000 was $3,699 in ye olde money. It shows.
If the modern-day MPCs were so good, the old MPCs wouldn't still be changing hands for considerable money and wouldn't be highly sought after. Go figure.