[jauer]

"the West" has to keep some degree of not officially caring to avoid being backed into a policy corner and has no incentive to take law enforcement action when threat actors in those other countries operate with impunity.

We're already well into causus belli territory with NK, but nobody wants to go there: https://x.com/tarah/status/1798036415932187127

[ImPostingOnHN]

That link doesn't really explain what exactly it's talking about, it's a single reply with the original post invisible and all replies invisible. It speaks of a cyberattack without mentioning which one.

[jauer]

It works for me? That's normal behavior if you aren't signed into Twitter :(

Summary of thread: Society doesn't handle 2nd order consequences well. NK cryptolocker attack on healthcare-involved systems in British hospitals disrupted treatment to the extent that hundreds of people died who probably wouldn't have.

Expanding on that: Organized crime groups located in and sometimes tasked by RU SVR & GRU (not to mention NK state groups) have caused sufficient disruption to US healthcare systems to have indirectly caused more US Citizen deaths than the Sept 11 attacks. Right now cyber that does not directly cause destruction such as making buildings blow up or poisoning water supply is treated as just an annoying white collar crime.

I don't think anyone wants the US Government to be in a position where their options are to admit powerlessness or get proportional against nuclear armed states.

Somewhat related: https://blogs.icrc.org/law-and-policy/2023/10/04/8-rules-civ...