[aridiculous]

Surprising to see Gross involved. He seems to be pretty baked into the YC world, which usually means "very commercially oriented".

[AlanYx]

It does say they have a business model ("our business model means safety, security, and progress are all insulated from short-term commercial pressures"). I imagine it's some kind of patron model that requires a long-term commitment.

[notresidenter]

His latest project (https://pioneer.app/) recently (this year I think) got shutdown. I guess he's pivoting.

[rattray]

What do you mean "got shutdown"? What happened?