[xinuc]

> In addition to limiting China’s battery complex, the free world, especially the United States, must strengthen itself by expanding its own battery capacity and capabilities.

I just realized that western countries use the term "the free world" to describe themselves above other countries.

It's just funny how they like to fool themselves.

[adriancr]

> It's just funny how they like to fool themselves.

They are in essence free compared to russia and china's autocracies.

Do you mind detailing what you mean?

[Teever]

Why take the bait?

This guy wants to talk about something nebulous like freedom.

Let's talk about how we can bring domestic battery manufacturing to America so that we can use that to crush Chinese and Russian military opposition with the eventual goal of seeing proper democracy brought to those regions.

We need domestic battery production for so many things, and it needed to happen yesterday.

Another thing I've been wondering about is this: Who is the JLPCB or PCBWay of America? When is low cost rapid turn around PCB manufacturing in America going to be a thing? How can I be a part of that?

[api]

What happens in Russia or China if you viciously criticize their leadership?

Most of the “free world” is at least comparatively free compared to the rest. No it is not black and white but it’s definitely light grey vs dark grey or black.

There’s a reason places like the USA, Canada, etc continue to be the most desirable destinations for immigration while you see very few people trying to get into Russia or China. Only people trying to get into those are fleeing much worse places or in the case of Russia have drunk certain brands of kool-aid.

[8372049]

In absolute numbers, the US is the #1, but immigrants as percentage of population has the US as #65 (Canada #41).

Still way higher than Russia or China. While a little over 15 % of the US population are immigrants (defined as not born in the country), only 0.07 % of the Chinese population are immigrants. Roughly 7 % of Russian population is immigrants.

Source: https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/immigrati...

[jheitmann]

Also, China's battery production is described as a "battery complex" while US battery production is described as a "battery industry" or "battery industrial base".

[AlbertCory]

Old USSR joke:

Anti-communist says, "In America, I'm free to stand on the corner with a sign saying, 'Nixon is a criminal' "

Loyal communist supporter, "Here, too, I'm free to stand on the corner with a sign saying, 'Nixon is a criminal' "

[vasco]

I mean, "the west" also doesn’t mean much unless there is a bunch of assumed convention. To know what the "western countries" are, basically you need to know more than "west of what" and "go west until when" but actually something more like "post WW2 allied countries with NATO membership", and even that isn't a great way to figure it out.

[jszymborski]

China is an authoritarian regime without elections, let alone free and open ones.

Equivocating the systems of government of the US or "Western Countries" as you've put it with that of China, is so blatantly false that someone less charitable than I might question whether you are arguing in good faith.

[riku_iki]

US's president elections are effectively decided by 10k delegates in two parties during primaries, population chooses from two options they are given. It is better than in China(which has one party), but is it really by far better?