[naertcxx]

I agree with this. Python is now more complex than C++. Python looks as if it is simple, because the syntax looks clean.

If you read the new "compilers" [1] in packages like PyTorch, which are unfortunately written in Python, you stare at a huge code base with walls of text, objects calling one another in a maze of ravioli code and generally no help at all to make sense of it all.

Compare that to the gcc code bases, where it is always possible to find some entry point to understand the whole thing.

[1] "compilers", because despite the huge code base (wasn't Python supposed to be terse?) they preprocess the function graph and then call g++ and Triton to do the actual work.

[gpderetta]

I very much have a love/hate relationship with python, but it does have a significantly milder ramp for beginners. The complexity is relatively well hidden. I can recommend python as a first language to someone that wants to learn to program. I can't do that with C++ with a straight face, unless one is especially interested in the areas were C++ still dominates.