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raingrove | 1 year ago

Pretty cool! It's kinda amusing that we've gone from TUI (VisiCalc/Lotus 1-2-3) to GUI (Excel), and back to TUI though.

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5-|1 year ago

cursor-addressing uis likely have a higher barrier to entry (both for developers and users), so they are not suffering from the regression to the mean that has made modern guis absolutely unusable.

that, and there aren't any "ui/ux designers" specialising in cursor-addressing uis.

galdosdi|1 year ago

What do you mean precisely by "character addressing UI"? I can infer approximately what you mean, but I had never heard that phrase before and could not Google it, so was wondering how precisely you define that as presumably slightly distinct from other more common terms for text mode applications.

kazinator|1 year ago

Not really. There is an ancient curses-based spreadsheet program called "sc" (spreadsheet calculator).

It sounds like "scim" is to "sc" vaguely like "vim" is to "vi": new program with more features cloning/imitating ancient program.

"vi" was written by Bill Joy in 1979.

"sc" by James Gosling in 1981.

sc-im claims to be based on "sc".

It's a direct lineage unrelated to GUI spreadsheets.

dotancohen|1 year ago

Gosling wrote sc? I had no idea. I was an scim user before moving to visidata like another poster mentioned, so I kinda-sorta feel like an sc user.

For those who don't know, James Gosling invented a popular VM-based "write once, test everywhere" programming language named after a tree. Then named after a coffee.

mytec|1 year ago

It reminded me of The Twin spreadsheet from the late 1980s. I worked at a plastics plant that used it in their color lab until at least 2013 when I left. There were thousands of color recipes and no one wanted to try and convert all of that to a newer spreadsheet.

https://forum.winworldpc.com/discussion/7590/software-spotli...

smabie|1 year ago

No one has gone back for real spreadsheet work tho

fbn79|1 year ago

The great drawback of TUI app is that are quite unusable from touch devices, or generally devices without a keyboard). If you find a way to make them usable on mobile I think they can get a great comeback

bregma|1 year ago

If you can find a way to make touch-friendly interfaces useful on desktop devices with a large screen and a keyboard maybe then they'll take off.

Better yet, make all user interfaces the same as a toaster. Everyone can use a toaster. Bread goes in, push the lever. One universal way of thinking for everyone and everything. No domination by the tyranny of choice.

IsTom|1 year ago

> If you find a way to make them usable on mobile

And if that requires any tradeoffs like it did for GUIs (no hover, no small elements) it'll end up getting dumbed down for mobile like GUIs did.