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ermir | 1 year ago

Next step: have a speed tracker on the car that will report speeding straight to the cops, no need for them to see you with a radar or anything like that.

In general there's lots of politicians and "administrators" who salivate at tech like this that constrain people and make them manageable. I find these attempts very undignified and totalitarian.

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_Wintermute|1 year ago

You're operating fast moving heavy machinery in a public space, an activity that kills thousands each year. If you want freedom then do it elsewhere.

redrove|1 year ago

> If you want freedom then do it elsewhere.

EU in a nutshell.

ermir|1 year ago

Well, why not have alcohol breath sensors in all cars? Why not have the car not start at all without the seatbelts being in place, and not just have the annoying alarm? Why not have the car stop going over 20 km/h if it's unregistered?

akmarinov|1 year ago

Overall limiting cars to a maximum of 160 km/h seems like a good idea. Apart from some stretches of the Autobahn - there's not much reason cars should go that fast.

TomK32|1 year ago

Less reason for them to accelerate like they do. 0-100 km/h in 5 seconds will kill people in a city if you do it by accident, which already happens.

PartiallyTyped|1 year ago

I’d argue that we should be limiting acceleration as well.

I see no reason why a 2 tonne car should accelerate to 100km in less than 5 seconds, but here we are.

constantcrying|1 year ago

>Overall limiting cars to a maximum of 160 km/h seems like a good idea.

Ridiculous. People use cars for things besides going from A to B. In Germany significant parts of the streets are without speed limit and you can easily go 200km/h+.

TomK32|1 year ago

The speed limiter is enough, I'm sure that insurance companies will soon offer discounts if you submit those speed logs in case of accidents or in general with live-speed-tracking.

The problem though remains: Too much horse power and it's particularly sad with young men not being in full control of those cars causing accidents of all sort. Here's a recent interview with a public prosecutor in Germany: https://archive.is/20240703123415/https://www.sueddeutsche.d...

cynicalsecurity|1 year ago

You haven't read the article.

ermir|1 year ago

Sure I have, my objection is on the greater tendency for legislators to use technological means to constrain ordinary behavior. Today is a speed limiter, tomorrow is a embedded car snitch, or an automatic hate speech detector, or whatever else you can think of.

They understood this in the 90s, why not today? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dz4HEEiJuGo

HeckFeck|1 year ago

This whole system seems set up like nagware. Having the car distract the motorist with alerts while driving will surely increase risks of accidents, as will the anger induced by the frustration of knowing that a machine is fighting him instead of working for him.

Everyone except the managers hates micromanaging for good reason, it treats me like an idiot who cannot be trusted to make his own calls. And I know better than some remote manager the best choice to make in a given situation - especially while operating high speed machinery. There have been more than a few times on the road that flooring it was safer than slowing down.

Absolute trash idea - even worse than Auto Idle Stop, I will ensure it is removed from any future car I purchase.

TomK32|1 year ago

Your argument works fine until you remember that distraction, in the form of smartphone-usage during the drive, has risen to one of the top three causes of road accidents.