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f001 | 1 year ago

That doesn’t seem right. The tdp for the 1700 is 65w… no way an io die is consuming most of that. Here’s a comparison of a system with a ryzen 1700 idling vs intel contemporaries which don’t have a separate i/o die: https://www.bit-tech.net/reviews/tech/amd-ryzen-7-1700-revie...

Note that it’s only 7W greater at stock clocks.

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Rinzler89|1 year ago

Yes it does.

You're looking at chips from 2017 when Intel had stinkers and under load, but what I said is true, the IO die has high idle power draw compared to modern monolithic designs, which gets hidden away under load.

Just Google if you don't believe me, plenty of older desktop Ryzen owners complain about higher idle power draw compared to Intel.

f001|1 year ago

The ryzen 1700 is also from 2017. Intel’s cpus still dominated at the time for anything single-threaded, they were just bad at multithreaded workloads. I’m not saying i/o die power consumption isn’t higher, it is for sure. And I agree, it doesn’t go down at idle because it can’t turn off or do power gating.

What I’m saying is that a computer with a cpu that is 65W TDP (from a time when amd’s TDP was close to being accurate as ~ max power consumption under load), the i/o die (which is part of that 65w TDP; which is for load) cannot possibly be the main reason his computer is idling at 80W. Especially when I linked an instance of a system also with a ryzen 1700 that was idling for 57W and with a similar configuration as an intel contemporary only being 7W greater at idle.

Log_out_|1 year ago

What i do not get is,why not add condensators and computation only on filled condensator and memory fetch completed?