[mthld]

Yeah. Look at all the benefits of colonization in African countries. Look at the great job we are doing. Giving them money to alienate themselves looking at the shit we produce. Such a great advancement for humanity. Thanks lord for bringing civilization to the savages

[TulliusCicero]

Trade and colonization aren't the same thing. People are taking these jobs because they're better than the alternative, sad as it is.

If developed countries all refused to outsource work like this to poorer countries, do you think that would help the condition of the people there?

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for better working conditions, but ultimately that is primarily the responsibility of the government(s) of that country.

[mthld]

And where do you think these governments comes from? Why do you think they are in such a precarious situation?

Maybe colonialism has something to do with it, hasn’t it?

[notjoemama]

I just read this covering the history of Kenya’s colonialism and independence. (Mercy, from the article, works for a Meta office in Nairobi, Kenya)

https://www.britannica.com/place/Kenya/Kenya-colony

What about the last 60 years free of colonial rule connects to the current state today? Do you think these corporate interests stem from Kenya’s Building Bridges Initiative?

I ask because I recently listened to a podcast about China’s Belt and Road Initiative winding down in Africa. I was surprised to hear this because they had committed to a large infusion of capital with some future trade partnerships (tens of billions at least). It was set to be a massive boon for much of Africa after the US reduced its economic aid in the region. Their reasoning was (economic woes in China aside), they found too much was unstable, specifically legislatively and socially. Permits and licenses drug out where most of the time it was difficult to know which official was in charge of which responsibilities. Also, they would build a facility that would be repeatedly attacked and destroyed by warlords in the area. I believe they said it was common to lose workers to independent gangs.

Just wondering if you could expand on what you said so I can connect the same dots. I’m not understanding your critique.

[infecto]

No doubt the impact of Europe on Africa has hurt but are brining jobs to Africa a bad thing? At this point Africa probably receives more harm from its own residents than outside influences.

Nobody said anything about savages. Please don’t bring negativity into a conversation.

[solveit]

Your rhetoric falls flat against any infant mortality chart.

> alienate themselves

Sounds like a first-world problem to me.