[jtagen]

The solution here is to stop at every yellow light. If it's timed very fast, spend the entire red holding down your horn.

Enough people protest predatory lights in this fashion, either it will get fixed or the local police will start shooting people who honk.

I wonder how many people it would take to mark the route through one of these lights as blocked before mapping services route around them.

[bmelton]

This seems... unsafe? I get that it isn't your fault if someone rear ends you, but the best advice I've ever hear on the roads was "be predictable." Stopping abruptly seems like a sure-fire way to cause an accident.

I don't know if it is any more, but as I understand it, the white dashed lines in the road would become solid a certain distance away from the light. That distance was roughly calibrated to being the distance it would take for the average vehicle doing the speed limit to come to a stop safely.

I was taught that if the light turned yellow and you were beyond the solid lines, you should come to a stop, but if you were inside the solid lines, you should proceed as if it were green[1]. This worked for a long time. Decades, before moving to a new area. I noticed that the newer area had stop light cameras, but I also quickly noticed that the lines didn't sync up to the lights. Perhaps there had been no effort to make them. Perhaps that was an older convention no longer followed. I don't know. But I miss having a reference for which way to handle coin-tosses without having to first become intimately familiar with the light's timing.

[1] - unless of course someone in front of you were trying to stop