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minot | 1 year ago

> The Free Software community has made it clear from day 1 that the GPL can only achieve its goals through enforcement of copyright

We should mention when we say this, although I think it is self-evident, that the preferable alternative is reducing the scope of copyright across the board -- be it with shorter time frames (I'd argue even twenty years total is too long!) or some other means.

To programmers and developers, remember the core of free software is NOT the commercial developer / programmer and it NEVER has been. The core is always the user and what they need. This is so important that it needs to be repeated every time someone talks about free software because free software is NOT about open source. Open source code is a necessary part of free software but it is NOT sufficient.

https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.en.html

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koolala|1 year ago

We have to fight for the AI and AI Users! They are the future! They deserve access to their own weights!

lukan|1 year ago

"The core is always the user and what they need."

Which is why gnu/linux without a terminal is totally usable and therefore accesible to the non programmer. /s

I agree that user centric developement should be the goal, but I hardly see it implemented. Free software programmers almost allways solved their own needs first, which is alright, because usually no one paid them to serve other peoples needs, but I seldom see this goal met.

lelanthran|1 year ago

You are confusing "software UX" with "software freedom".

The primary consideration is freedom for the user. Ease-of-use for the user is a different consideration.

deadbunny|1 year ago

Maybe their target user isn't the one you're basing your opinion of what a user is?

Take vi(m). It's not intuitive to your suggested target user and has a learning curve shaped like a cliff. So it fails to provide for what you consider a "user". However it serves it's actual target users very well.

Arch doesn't position itself towards what you have presented as a user, Mint might however as they have very different target audiences. Not everything has to be designed to the lowest common denominator.

koolala|1 year ago

Your describing the ultimate AI interface. They have been guarding it for decades - now is the critical moment.

If they win this fight - GPL code will be usable by all of Artifical Humanity. GPL Singularity.

rkangel|1 year ago

> Which is why gnu/linux without a terminal is totally usable and therefore accesible to the non programmer. /s

Have you used modern Fedora? I have an old Thinkpad at home that I put Fedora on last year as our "sofa" laptop for web shopping etc. I took careful note of what I needed to do to set it up and that involved nothing on the command line to get to something good that my wife could happily use (not a techie, never used Linux).

Hamuko|1 year ago

>The core is always the user and what they need.

Would reducing copyright duration actually help with that?

skywhopper|1 year ago

Copyright duration is not really a factor in the FSF’s actual goal, which is for software to be distributed with user-modifiable source code. Copyleft licenses are a means of achieving this through the existing copyright system with its ludicrous durations. But making copyright terms much shorter would help, yes, because any released source code or even binary files could be used, reverse-engineered, and modified without permission.