[throwaway4good]

Both China and Russia are building alternatives to Boeing/Airbus commercial airliners. But are in two completely different situations.

COMAC relies on international suppliers, probably hoping that will make it easier for them to be allowed to fly outside China and then over time they can use more and more domestic suppliers. Whereas the Russians are completely cut off from international suppliers and travel, and have to resurrect their airliner projects which have been more or less dormant since the Soviet times.

I think both will be succesful over time; they have huge internal markets that can sponsor quite a bit of development cost.

[TheOtherHobbes]

China might. Russia has decided to move its economy in a different direction.

[throwaway4good]

Even at war and cut off from the world the Russian economy is growing. Driving by buoyant commodity prices.

They have tech for civilian aviation in their massive military industry. And just the sheer size of the country guarantees the demand.

[throwaway4good]

And the Chinese have a modern engine under development that can be used in a commercial airliner:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ACAE_CJ-1000A

[conradev]

COMAC’s C919 is flying domestically and their next goal is EASA type certification

I imagine it will be more geopolitics than anything else, but the EASA says 2026 is “too soon”.

[sofixa]

> I imagine it will be more geopolitics than anything else, but the EASA says 2026 is “too soon”.

Certifying a new jet from scratch is usually a multi-year endeavour, so why would it be geopolitics?

The C-Series, latest jet to be certified, took a good 2.5 years from first flight to type certification.

And the C919 hasn't started EASA certification yet.