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jaydouken | 1 year ago

Some of these are obviously stupid and deserve to be ridiculed, but I don’t think this site needs to be as hard on the “one laptop per child” one as they are. That seemed like a well-intentioned product designed to do good in the world, not everything ends up working out.

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filmgirlcw|1 year ago

I think the assessment, harsh as it might be, is fair. Morgan Ames' excellent 2019 book on the OLPC project, "The Charisma Machine" [1], does a really good job looking at all the things that went wrong in the project. There was a lot of hubris in this project from top to bottom -- a lot of Ivy League intellectuals who believed they knew how to best teach the developing world and that somehow, this device would be the one to do it. It wasn't.

Well-intentioned or not, I think its broader impact is probably overstated in many circles (the notion that we wouldn't have sub-$300 laptops without OLPC is just silly), especially since many of the promises behind the device (the price, the crank, the way it would "reshape" education") were just untrue.

Is it a blind waste of investment looking for a problem to solve like Juicero? No. Is it a scam like Theranos? Also no. But given the poor-execution of the project, the imperialist nature of its whole raison d'être, and the negative effects its failure had on the EdTech movement as a whole, I think it is definitely worthy of critique.

[1]: https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262537445/the-charisma-machine/

jt2190|1 year ago

SugarOS was really interesting and still exists [1], but the hardware was always a solution looking for a problem. Sure the hardware might have been kind of neat, but it was always too expensive and obsolete and never worth the huge investment. [2]

[1] https://www.sugarlabs.org/

[2] https://cacm.acm.org/research/one-laptop-per-child-vision-vs...

hakfoo|1 year ago

The hardware served two purposes, as I see it:

1. It was obviously a "toy"/"educational tool" making it less desirable to divert from the intended use case. If you had a charity unload pallets of refurbished Thinkpads to the Global South, plenty of them won't end up in the classrooms. If you visit the local petty functionary and he has a bright green toylike machine on his desk, it's obviously been misallocated.

2. A standard reference platform provides a uniform target for third party devs. Think about developing for the C64, versus a contemporary PC which could have one of four or five different video cards and a dozen memory sizes.

jszymborski|1 year ago

I had the same reaction. The product also existed and represented some interesting developments for the time tbh.

mechagodzilla|1 year ago

I think their goal was interesting for the time, but its release coincided first with the whole 'netbook' craze which meant, all of a sudden, you could buy a regular laptop for $100-$200, rather than the maybe $700-$800 low-end laptop price that had prevailed before that, and then with smart phones becoming ubiquitous and dirt cheap all over the world.

strken|1 year ago

At the time I believed the proliferation of netbooks was caused by OLPC. I don't think it was a fundamentally bad idea either.

The project identified a legitimate need for a small, durable, and cheap laptop, but failed on a number of specifics: it did worse as a not-for-profit than it would have done as a company, the design was child-centric instead of something adults could use too, and Linux on every machine was a design decision that only made sense in the flawed context of a not-for-profit.

The MSCHF message of "press [F] to pay respects to capitalism" is incredibly ironic when applied to OLPC, since it arguably failed due to not being capitalist enough and was succeeded by for-profit companies who remade a similar product for a wider and less charitable audience.

BugsJustFindMe|1 year ago

The laptop also was not called "the one laptop per child" or "the OLPC". That was the name of the project. The laptop was the XO.

The website getting this wrong makes it harder for me to take them seriously.