personally I go to the office every day even though I have a long commute. I hate working from home. Mandates for RTO don’t universally make the job worse. Of course I acknowledge it does for some people but not everyone.
I also hate WFH and go in every day even though my company allows full WFH, but RTO mandates suck. The WFH option means the only people who come in, are the people who want to be there. It makes the experience much more pleasant (and less crowded!). I think it'd be nice if more people chose to come in, and I support making changes so more people choose to do that (travel compensation, free child care, more private offices & cubes). But a mandate only makes it worse for everyone.
I actually enjoy going into the office too, but not in a cubicle farm. Every employee should have their own office. I love the hybrid model, but only if that is true.
Being in the office is only nice if it’s not crowded. Having 40-50% occupancy is the sweet spot for me. Any higher and I’ll autocorrect to working from home.
They absolutely do, because they're mandates. If you want to work from the office you are more than welcome to do so, and nobody here is telling you to stop doing that.
Working from the office gets more useful when more people do it, because of easier communication with teammates, so mandates can absolutely make the work environment better for someone who wants to work in the office.
I do and I do. I also don't like having to crush them over and over every day saying "not now, daddy has work..." Going into the office means I'm gone when I'm working, but when I'm with them I'm 100% with them. Days I do work from home and they're not in school can be rough for them.
Also, while I'm lucky enough to afford a whole room of my home as an office two little kids can still end up being quite loud and interruptive. It's nice having a dedicated space to have some quiet on my work schedule.
Plus, free gym for exercise, free tea/coffee, free AC/electricity, there's a free bike share if I drive in and want to ride through the nature preserve near the office or to the restaurants or other parks nearby, meetings in person when we're all right near each other seem easier, free car charging, etc. There's a lot of amenities in the office for me as well.
My commute is only like 2mi from home. It's a 15 minute bike ride. It's not like I'm spending a ton of time and money commuting. If there's something important for me to go to in regards of the kids it's not like I have to hop out for over an hour; the pediatrician is like 10min from the office, the library is closer than that, their school is across the street from the library, etc.
I get not everyone has great amenities, I understand some people have like half-hour commutes or worse. Everyone has their own math to do on if coming in is good or not. But it's not like having kids is instantly a remote work is better.
I’m not the person you’re replying to but I do. And absolutely yes, I do. When I work from the office I’m gone longer (maybe 1.5 hours a day) but I’m significantly more present when I’m at home. If I WFH I’ll spend the evening ducking back into my home office to send that email or check that document etc and my mind will be 50% thinking about work all evening. I like a hard cutoff, when I’m home my phone goes off and I’m 100% there for dinner, bath and story time.
Your comment would be more informative if you were to actually tell why you hate working from home, what about the office makes it worth the long commute etc.
My job involves 60% writing software and 40% testing with hardware. I work about 5% of my days from home, when I’m sick or have other obligations.
I don’t have the space, time or incentive to set up a home office in the place I live. This unfortunately means all the stuff around me become distractions. I find it harder to sustain long work sessions at home.
I miss having quick chats with coworkers by their desk. Sometimes I hit an issue and all I need is a 30-second talk with the dev 2 aisles over. And it’s mutual: I find these quick chats great for helping folks out and keeping myself in the loop. Instant messaging is not an adequate substitute.
And lastly this is tied to my work and company policies but usually I can only access test hardware at the office, due to logistics or confidentiality.
Plenty of people don't have good spaces to work at home and it's actually quieter at their office. Of course, there's also people in the other direction.
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Also, while I'm lucky enough to afford a whole room of my home as an office two little kids can still end up being quite loud and interruptive. It's nice having a dedicated space to have some quiet on my work schedule.
Plus, free gym for exercise, free tea/coffee, free AC/electricity, there's a free bike share if I drive in and want to ride through the nature preserve near the office or to the restaurants or other parks nearby, meetings in person when we're all right near each other seem easier, free car charging, etc. There's a lot of amenities in the office for me as well.
My commute is only like 2mi from home. It's a 15 minute bike ride. It's not like I'm spending a ton of time and money commuting. If there's something important for me to go to in regards of the kids it's not like I have to hop out for over an hour; the pediatrician is like 10min from the office, the library is closer than that, their school is across the street from the library, etc.
I get not everyone has great amenities, I understand some people have like half-hour commutes or worse. Everyone has their own math to do on if coming in is good or not. But it's not like having kids is instantly a remote work is better.
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I don’t have the space, time or incentive to set up a home office in the place I live. This unfortunately means all the stuff around me become distractions. I find it harder to sustain long work sessions at home.
I miss having quick chats with coworkers by their desk. Sometimes I hit an issue and all I need is a 30-second talk with the dev 2 aisles over. And it’s mutual: I find these quick chats great for helping folks out and keeping myself in the loop. Instant messaging is not an adequate substitute.
And lastly this is tied to my work and company policies but usually I can only access test hardware at the office, due to logistics or confidentiality.
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