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frankohn | 1 year ago
I see your sarcasm backfire as most you are listing is just Microsoft dog-food with no real usefulness. The only good thing in your list is Excel, all the rest is bloatware. Teams is a resource hog that serve no useful purpose. Skype was perfectly fine to send messages or have some video call.
I admit I don't have experience as an IT administator but things like managing emails, accounts, database, manage remote computers can be done with well estalished tools from the linux/BSD world.
dartos|1 year ago
Wild that you’d write this comment with such a confident voice then.
I worked at a company who’s IT team managed both windows and Mac computers and apparently MS’s ActiveDirectory is leagues ahead of apple’s offering. Which makes sense. MS is selling windows to administrators, not to users
red-iron-pine|1 year ago
Admittidly, it's mostly a better job at integrating with Microsoft-powered systems, so it should damn well do a better job, but it's a core business offering and has polish on it in ways that many FOSS offerings don't.
disclaimer: haven't done FreeIPA and LDAP work in the last ~3 years, maybe they got better.
pocketsand|1 year ago
No one “loves” Teams, but honestly it serves its purpose for us at no cost.
No one loves OneDrive but it works.
I think people underestimate how much work it would take to integrate services, train people, and meet compliance requirements when using a handful of the best in class products instead of MS Suite.
mbreese|1 year ago
But with SQL Server, on the other hand, I think you are right. It is a good piece of software. But it also has high quality competition from multiple vendors. Some of it enterprise (Oracle, DB2), some of it FOSS (Postgres, MySQL). Because of this, it has to be better quality to survive… they couldn’t bundle it to get market share, it actually had to compete.
ta1243|1 year ago
Of course there's a cost, its just hidden and you are forced to pay it. Microsoft used its monopoly position to move into a new market.
afavour|1 year ago
I’m sorry, this is a very silly take. I’m no fan of Teams or Slack but I can’t deny the functionality they offer, which is far above and beyond what Skype does.
> I admit I don’t have experience as an IT administrator
Well, quite.
WillAdams|1 year ago
I'd be glad to see Apple bring those tools back.
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mfro|1 year ago
Then you probably shouldn't speak on software exclusively understood and administered by IT administrators. I've worked in IT for some time and every single one of those products(aside from Dynamics) have been the most important parts of our administrative stack.
Stranger43|1 year ago
the 90ies are over but for some reason average enterprise department have a problem internalizing the fact that the demands today is different then they were 25 years ago.
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datavirtue|1 year ago
Then just hit the back button.
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