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RubberbandSoul | 1 year ago

> state puts refugees in the same areas (Rinkeby, Vivalla, Tensta, etc ...).

No it doesn't. Refugees are placed in municipalities all over Sweden but most choose to move to the big cities as soon as they can and end up in these districts because they are the cheapest.

> slightly elevated crime rate.

Citation needed. Compared to what? Casual crime is very high compared to traditional Swedish society. Also a lot of crime goes unreported because the locals don't trust the police to be able to do anything.

> That's where the integration effort stops.

Simply not true. There are oodles of integration efforts all over Sweden at many levels; public projects, local initiatives and on top of that immigration heavy areas gets more public funding than average for schools, after-school activities, park/street cleanings, etc.

> Even professionals who move to Sweden for work have a hard time integrating in Swedish society.

That's because Swedish is a small language and most professionals don't plan on staying. Most Swedish professionals speak English on a native speaker level and most large Swedish companies has English as the official corporate language. In my experience most non-English speakers that comes to Sweden spend their efforts on becoming fully proficient in English while the English speakers are delighted to find that they can use English everywhere in society. Learning Swedish has a very low priority and after a couple of years most expats grows tired of the cold, darkness, taxes, low salaries, etc.

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EGreg|1 year ago

In my opinion, refugees should be spread out and placed among neighbors who are willing to interact positively with them and invite them to stuff so they can integrate, and NOT allowed to relocate their residence for 5-10 years. That will be better for the country. Beggars can’t be choosers, they’re happy to get asylum.

How to enforce that: fine whoever sells/rents to them outside where they are supposed to live. And threaten to deport them if they move without the years passing or showing they’ve integrated / learned the language / culture etc.

Obviously, exceptions can be made for reasons of safety or being closer to a job they got, but then the same procedure should be followed (spread out and surrounded by neighbors willing to help integrate them).

They should also have access to resource to accelerate the cultural integration, like meetups and schools etc.

RecycledEle|1 year ago

I like the idea of setting an immigration quota based on how many meighborhoods overwhelmingly vote to welcome immigrants, and then requiring the immigrants to live in those neighborhoods as a condition if their immigration status.

If the immigrants enrich the community, those who welcomed them get the enrichment.

If the immigrants bring crime and disease, those who welcomes them get the crime, disease, and decreased property values.

I love solutions that work whether my views are right or wrong.

May I steal that for part of my political platform?

qb1|1 year ago

Do it! Start-up meet-ups and find a way to make the labor, especially the idle labor, more productive. This is entreprenuerism. It is also hard and then there are the costs--who pays?

KennyBlanken|1 year ago

> Citation needed. Compared to what? Casual crime is very high compared to traditional Swedish society. Also a lot of crime goes unreported because the locals don't trust the police to be able to do anything.

Citation needed? You haven't provided a single citation for any of the wild claims you've made.

ryan93|1 year ago

Don’t need a citation for that