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gpjanik | 1 year ago

Hi from Germany. In case you were wondering, we regulated ourselves to the point where I can't even see the demo of SAM2 until some other service than Meta deploys it.

Does anyone know if this already happened?

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pavlov|1 year ago

It’s more like “Meta is restricting European access to models even though they don’t have to, because they believe it’s an effective lobbying technique as they try to get EU regulations written to their preference.”

The same thing happened with the Threads app which was withheld from European users last year for no actual technical reason. Now it’s been released and nothing changed in between.

These free models and apps are bargaining chips for Meta against the EU. Once the regulatory situation settles, they’ll do what they always do and adapt to reach the largest possible global audience.

michaelt|1 year ago

> Meta is restricting European access to models even though they don’t have to

This video segmentation model could be used by self-driving cars to detect pedestrians, or in road traffic management systems to detect vehicles, either of which would make it a Chapter III High-Risk AI System.

And if we instead say it's not specific to those high-risk applications, it is instead a general purpose model - wouldn't that make it a Chapter V General Purpose AI Model?

Obviously you and I know the "general purpose AI models" chapter was drafted with LLMs (and their successors) in mind, rather than image segmentation models - but it's the letter of the law, not the intent, that counts.

phyrex|1 year ago

> The same thing happened with the Threads app which was withheld from European users last year for no actual technical reason. Now it’s been released and nothing changed in between.

No technical reason, but legal reasons. IIRC it was about cross-account data sharing from Instagram to Threads, which is a lot more dicey legally in the EU than in NA.

bakje|1 year ago

Not saying you're wrong, but in this instance it might be a regulation specific to Germany since the site works just fine from the Netherlands.

maeil|1 year ago

Sounds like big tech's strategy to make you protest against regulating them is working brilliantly.

gpjanik|1 year ago

Regulation in this space works exclusively in favor of big tech, not against them. Almost all of that regulation was literally written for the benefit and with aid of the big tech.

Leszek|1 year ago

Hi also from Germany - works fine here

analyzethis|1 year ago

Looking at it right now from Denmark. You must have some other problem.

consumer451|1 year ago

Which German regulation prevents this? Is it biometric related?

It seems that https://mullvad.net is a necessary part of my Internet toolkit these days, for many reasons.