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g_sch | 1 year ago

The feature I miss most about Dark Sky was that it allowed you to visualize changes in dew point throughout the day.

Where I live (US East Coast), the weather can feel dramatically different depending on the humidity. Relative Humidity has always felt to me like a poor way of measuring how humid the weather will feel. For example, 50% RH at 84ºF will feel lightly humid and generally pleasant, whereas 50% RH at at 97ºF will feel like a swamp. The dew points at those respective points - 63ºF and 75ºF - do a much better job at immediately conveying how humid the air will feel.

Dark Sky used to show hourly dew point graphs that you could browse throughout the week and see when the humidity would break (or return). Apple Weather does show you the dew point, but only when you select a point on the RH graph. So to track the dew point over the coming week, you basically need to drag your finger over each day's graph and observe the changing numbers.

I think this is probably just due to the lack of general awareness about how dew point is a more elegant shorthand for "absolute humidity" than any other weather metric currently in use. I hope there will be more of us in the future!

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Leftium|1 year ago

https://weather-sense.leftium.com

My web app plots hourly dew point for the next 24 hours, next 7 days, and past 2 days. (Still WIP.)

Inspired by https://merrysky.net (can also plot dew point), which was inspired by Dark Sky.

ProxCoques|1 year ago

Excellent app! And I'm sure I'm not the only one to congratulate you in showing past weather - a so obviously useful feature that 99% of all weather apps never have.

simlevesque|1 year ago

I like your app. I'm planning a trip next week and it was so easy to see the next few days.

deanishe|1 year ago

Cool. How do I switch it to standard units?

EDIT: NVM, found it. You tap the temperature.

EDIT 2: It really ought to remember the units. 95% of the planet doesn't ever want to see Fahrenheit.

GrayShade|1 year ago

Pretty nice app, I just have a small bug report: my location has a space in it, and it shows up as %20.

seoulbigchris|1 year ago

This is great! I live in Sacheon, and am now making this my go-to weather app.

travisluis|1 year ago

I too miss the dew point feature. The best replacement for Dark Sky I've found is this 10-day view of Weather Underground that's unfortunately only available on their website—I just bookmark the website on my phone home screen. https://www.wunderground.com/forecast/us/tx/austin/30.27,-97...

Izkata|1 year ago

> that's unfortunately only available on their website

A very old version of their Android app had that view as a 3-day widget for the home screen. Right after it was bought they did a major upgrade and removed a ton of functionality, that widget included.

cyberpunk|1 year ago

Carrot weather has dewpoint graphs (depending on source used).

MollyRealized|1 year ago

I am completely with you.

For me, I've written myself a Google Apps script - to be more accurate, AI did, but with my interaction - that e-mails a "humidity forecast" as to how wet the next six days are going to feel to me in a simple way. I don't know who came up with the categories I've placed them in - it seemed to be common weather information.

https://github.com/mollyrealized/humid-fcast/blob/main/Code....

jachee|1 year ago

Relative Humidity is directly tied to the dew point. Take a look back at the humidity forecast and look right under the humidity percentage. The dew point is there. If you tap a point in the future on the graph of forecast changes, the dew point is also registered there.

Leftium|1 year ago

- Relative humidity is also directly tied to the current temperature. (Warmer air can hold more moisture.)

- The dew point is independent from the temperature, so it is effectively a measure of "absolute humidity."

- While both measurements have their advantages, I find dew point a better indicator of the "mugginess." Also it is easier to estimate the relative humidity given the dew point vs. estimate the dew point given the relative humidity.

- You can compare both here: https://weather-sense.leftium.com (humidity plot disabled, but the value can be checked by hovering.)

g_sch|1 year ago

Yes, but what I'd really like to see is a visual graph of the dew point over the course of a day. The graph currently only shows RH%, and the only way to see how the dew point will change over the course of a day is to drag your finger over the RH% graph and watch the dew point number change.

bsimpson|1 year ago

I'm moving to NYC tomorrow, after spending my entire life on the West Coast.

Thanks for teaching me about dew point (and to the commenters below you for letting me know there's a free Dark Sky clone - merrysky.net - and a dew point graph on Weather Underground)!

jmbwell|1 year ago

Here in Houston as well, dew point is as important as temperature and %PoP. Apple Weather suffices for now but I hope it gets richer with the various types of data that are of greater relevance in different regions.