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jseliger | 1 year ago

Hacker News, thank you for all the links and all the great reading. Now I have to say goodbye.

I’m with my wife Bess (https://bessstillman.substack.com/) and my brother Sam, and crying, but it is okay. At the end of Lord of the Rings Gandalf says to the hobbits, "Go in peace! I will not say: do not weep; for not all tears are an evil.” And that is how I feel now. Ending prematurely hurts, but all things must end, and my time to end is upon me.

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voisin|1 year ago

Jake, I am so, so sorry for everything you’ve gone through and wish peace for you and the best for your loved ones. I’ve followed your story here and always been touched by your candor. Thank you for all your contributions. I was rooting for a better outcome and am sorry that it hasn’t arrived. Goodbye.

vinnyvichy|1 year ago

Thank you, Jake! ---and your wife --- for your links and great reading that highlight the importance of clinical trials for mRNA tumor vaccines! Will keep posting to HN her articles when they come out. https://archive.ph/bessstillman.substack.com

(Archive listing jseliger's wife Bess Stillman on clinical trials (including how to navigate them as patients) as well as comments)

UPDATE:

other concretes that have been mentioned, that are worth highlighting:

0) assume good faith & promote (& improve) Right-to-Try

https://www.fda.gov/media/133864/download#:~:text=Right%20to....

1) donate to (or even joining!) HN-adjacent Arc Institute (mRNA research)

2) sue the FDA for clinical trials, in general.

Here's one case https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2023/10/xocova-en...

keeptrying|1 year ago

Thank you for your writing - its taught me a lot about a lot of things. One concrete highlight is how important patient agency is in the patient-doctor relationship - which you've written about a few times.

I'm truly deeply sorry about this whole situation. Thank you for sharing all your knowledge.

jseliger|1 year ago

I hope too to accomplish at least two concrete ends:

1. Help and educate other people who are suddenly facing the opaque clinical-trial system: https://bessstillman.substack.com/p/please-be-dying-but-not-...

2. Ultimately, reform and speed FDA approval for fatal diseases like recurrent / metastatic head and neck cancers: https://jakeseliger.com/2024/01/29/the-dead-and-dying-at-the.... A drug like petosemtamab (MCLA-158), which I was on from Sept. 27 2023 to March 29 2024, should already be approved, instead of continuing to wander around in clinical trials.

HaZeust|1 year ago

Thank you Jake, it's been real to follow these developments.

You've touched a lot of us, and if leaving impressionable impacts on others is the highest quantifiable order in this life -- I think this was a job very well done :) and you've inspired many to continue that cycle. Rest well, see you on the other side.

epiccoleman|1 year ago

Reading your updates has been important to me since I started seeing your posts.

Thank you for taking the time and energy during the most difficult of circumstances to share your journey with the rest of us. I know it's given me a lot to think about and a lot to be grateful for.

Best of luck to you and yours as you come to the end of the journey. You'll be in my thoughts.

A_D_E_P_T|1 year ago

Your fighting spirit and clarity of mind have been an inspiration. Very few patients struggle on their own behalves as you and Bess have done -- and in such a flawed and labyrinthine medical-regulatory environment. Thank you for writing about it... I only wish they had made things easier for you. And I hope that the coming days bring peace and comfort.

bfdm|1 year ago

Thanks for sharing your journey with the world. I haven't read them all, but I have read several and while terrifying I know they will help others navigating similar journeys.

Rest well and all the love for those close to you.

sydbarrett74|1 year ago

Jake, no matter what happens in the days ahead, I wish you peace and equanimity. Thank you for sharing your journey with the world.

popupeyecare|1 year ago

Thank you. You don't know me but your story and life has had a profound impact on my perspective on what’s important. Thank you.

shrubble|1 year ago

Jake, I have read your previous posts and am deeply saddened to see this post; if there are LOTR references to be made then perhaps the part in the Appendix where Aragorn tells Arwen that "beyond the circles of the world there is more than memory" can be mentioned.

dredmorbius|1 year ago

Thanks for everything you've written, it will be a useful legacy to many.

Take care of you and yours as you can. My thoughts are with you and Bess who has been a true champion through your ordeal.

stavros|1 year ago

This really sucks. I don't know you, but I don't want this for you, but there's nothing I can do.

docstryder|1 year ago

You have been such an inspiration in how to make something impossible almost bearable. You are doing the hardest of hard things so well. Thank you for sharing and hope you find peace

borbulon|1 year ago

I’m sorry for both of you. I thank you for your words. As someone who’s right behind you in line, your words mean more to me (and hit harder, and cut deeper) than I expect they do for many.

Take my love with you both. See you on the other side.

girvo|1 year ago

Rest easy, and thank you for sharing your experience with us. I’ve read your words for such a long time now, and I’m happier for it; thank you again

vertis|1 year ago

It has been heartbreaking to follow, but all the same an important documentation. You are a true hero. I am at a loss to know what else to say.

reagan83|1 year ago

Go in peace. Through your writing you've made a positive impact on me, and I'm sure others in your time here. That's all any of us ever hope to do. Go in peace.

block_dagger|1 year ago

Gandalf also said, "End? No, the journey doesn't end here. Death is just another path, one that we all must take. The grey rain-curtain of this world rolls back, and all turns to silver glass, and then you see it."

chrisweekly|1 year ago

Great quote.

Also, props for a cool personal blog and project list, I'm listening to Phasmaphobe now... congrats on creating and publishing a full-length album! No easy feat.

davidrupp|1 year ago

He did? I'm surprised to find a quote I'm not familiar with. On what page of which edition did he say this?

isotropy|1 year ago

Thank you for sharing so much of yourself with us these past months.

toomuchtodo|1 year ago

Take care Jake. It was a privilege to follow along, and I wish you peace on your journey.

Herodotus38|1 year ago

Thank you for your posts. They meant a lot to me and I will use them to try and help others. They have helped me.

sam2426679|1 year ago

Bon voyage, Jake. I follow in your steps from the same diagnosis. Thank you for bravely sharing your experience and helping others in similar predicaments <3

moshegramovsky|1 year ago

You inspired me to make changes I needed to make.

Infinite love to you and your family.

egeres|1 year ago

Thank you for writing such a transparent and deeply touching essay. Even if it was painful to read because the topic feel unsettling to me, it made me reflect a lot about life and gratefulness. I look forward to read the rest of the things you have posted

adamredwoods|1 year ago

I watched your efforts and have tried applying them to my loved one. To be human, to be one with intelligence to figure things out as you have, the digital touch you have made, thank you. Go in peace.

sizzle|1 year ago

Thank you for sharing your story, may the end come peacefully with family at your side, wishing you a safe journey to where we all must go someday to be reunited. My heartfelt condolences brother.

fady0|1 year ago

Thank you for everything Jake, See you on the other side

noobermin|1 year ago

Wishing you the best Jake. Thanks for sharing your story with us. I sort of believe the little bit of what Douglas Hofstadter said in I am a strange loop, essentially, small bits of your soul live on in the rest of us who read your story and interacted with you here.

blackeyeblitzar|1 year ago

Thank you for documenting your journey, and sharing something so difficult and intimate with us. It is really eye opening. I wish your family all the best and hope you find peace.

Will your blog remain available to share with others?

slazaro|1 year ago

I've been reading your writings for a few months and I can assure you that you're on a lot of strangers' minds, passively making positive change in other people. I wish all the best to you and your family.

bigDinosaur|1 year ago

Thank you for your writing. I'm sorry it has come to this, and I don't quite know what to write other than that you've provided lots of valuable insight to an area I was unaware of.

andyjohnson0|1 year ago

Thank you for sharing your journey, Jake. Go well, with peace and love.

jkuria|1 year ago

All the best to you Jake

renewiltord|1 year ago

Thank you for all the work and sharing your journey.

SOLAR_FIELDS|1 year ago

See you in another life, brother. So long, and thanks for all the fish.

alspaca|1 year ago

Absolutely heartbreaking. Your writing has been a gift. Thank you for everything.

exmadscientist|1 year ago

Always appreciated seeing your "byline" on things around here and elsewhere. I'll miss you.

Good luck, to the extent that's even possible anymore.

2OEH8eoCRo0|1 year ago

Thanks for sharing. Your dignity and courage is inspiring.

google234123|1 year ago

Is there no way for you to do the Dallas trial?:(

username135|1 year ago

See ya on the other side. Or not.

ridgeguy|1 year ago

Godspeed, Jake. Thank you.

anatoly|1 year ago

Thank you for everything.

kragen|1 year ago

goodbye. thank you for everything you've given us

dthrowaway819|1 year ago

Hey this might be kind of a weird thing to say but screw it. I’ve been suicidal recently and seriously considered ending my life. One reason I have decided to hold on and get help is inspiring stories like your own. I look at how much dignity, energy, and love you have espoused even while having a terminal illness and I feel ashamed. Some people out there have been given so little and done amazing things with it, and I’ve been given so much and done nothing. In this strange way I feel like I owe you something even though you’re a stranger on the Internet. I want to be someone like you who is strong. Just wanted to let you know that.

swombat|1 year ago

With love, please consider - the "shame" you're describing is really something else in a mask.

Perhaps... a longing? Maybe this stranger has helped you find the place where you do truly long for life.

Let the feeling be. Don't label it shame. Don't label it longing. Just let it be. Give it space. Cry if you feel like it. Laugh if you feel like it. Just feel it.

And when you're ready to speak about this with others, there will be many, many willing to be there for you. You are loved.

klohto|1 year ago

Please don't be ashamed for your thoughts, nor feelings. Each of us have struggles of our own and we cannot compare our paths or strength with others. Just because some people cope differently, doesn't mean there is anything wrong with you or the way you process pain. Each of us is unique, with our own backstory.

I have recently also struggled with the decision whether to end my life. I was afraid to seek help and to talk to a professional.

If you ever feel like you need someone to listen or just talk to, please reach out at Twitter or at <username>@gmail.com

petercooper|1 year ago

I've been reading Five Chimneys by Olga Lengyel, a Holocaust survivor who went through the most terrible of ordeals. She became suicidal and a Frenchman who got her involved in the camp resistance told her that if there were just one reason not to do it, it was so she could do little things to make the lives of people around her better. She took this to heart and it pushed her through to eventual liberation and living till her 90s. I appreciate words are cheap, but I found this inspiring and a good way to think about life when all else seems lost.

geephroh|1 year ago

It takes a lot of courage to write what you've put into words out in the world, even if anonymously. You have value and it is possible to find the help, support and love you need. You can do it; you are strong enough. Please reach out: https://988lifeline.org/

vinnyvichy|1 year ago

Thank you, Jake! ---and your wife --- for your links and great reading that highlight the importance of clinical trials for mRNA tumor vaccines! Will keep posting to HN her articles when they come out.

https://archive.ph/bessstillman.substack.com

(Archive listing jseliger's wife Bess Stillman on clinical trials (including how to navigate them as patients) as well as comments)

UPDATE:

other concretes that have been mentioned, that are worth highlighting:

0) Promoting (& improving) Right to Try

https://www.fda.gov/media/133864/download#:~:text=Right%20to....

1) donating to (or even joining!) Arc Institute (mRNA research)

2) suing the FDA for clinical trials, in general.

Here's one case https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2023/10/xocova-en...