[janober]

Yes, I totally agree that I should have been more involved in hindsight, and that is definitely on me! In the first conversation with Chad, we actually agreed on chatting again after a few weeks regarding the next steps, but that never happened. The next time I heard about it was a few weeks before the launch (and yes, for sure, also partly on me!).

When I heard from Chad, DOSP was also still optional. The only issue I had was about governance. That sadly changed around one week later, and it became a hard requirement, even though I made very clear that it would be a deal breaker. So, I would say I was at least involved there, but it did not really matter. Worrying about something like that was interestingly also why governance was so important to me. I expected it to become a problem sometime later but was surprised that it was already a problem before it really started.

Our original conversation was also more about what to move forward with, fair code or source, and should be more like a joint effort (at least how it sounded to me). I was, however, very honest about it, saying that my time was limited at that time, and so I am happy he takes the lead. Maybe that is where it partly broke down, and we understood something very different.

Regarding differentiation: Honestly, I do not think the difference between "fair source" vs "open core" vs "source available" is what matters. What matters is the differentiation vs open source.

[ezekg]

We had some pretty detailed discussion that you missed out on: https://github.com/fairsource/fair.io/issues/14#issuecomment.... I'm sure SUL would have been right there with ELv2 since it's derived from it. I wish you would have participated. I ultimately relented because I relicensed to the FCL (because I wanted an ELv2 that was DOSP).

Ultimately, DOSP is a good thing and I want to see more companies adopt it under Fair Source.

[janober]

Yes, I definitely missed a lot there. An email, to make me aware of those discussions would have probably made quite a difference.

Anyway, it sounds like it would potentially not have changed much of a difference considering you are also pro DOSP ;-)