[seletskiy]

I will never understand people who say that mortality is what gives life a meaning. It is exactly opposite. If I can't observe effects of my actions (and most likely "I" would not be able to do so after death), then it does not matter for me what I do during life, since outcome is all the same.

There should be no death. For whatever reason, it is incredibly hard to find people thinking the same, despite, paradoxially no one wants to die.

Can we chat? My e-mail is in the profile.

[pwnOrbitals]

Fully aligned, and would love to join forces on such a project. Let's have a chat :)

[Viliam1234]

> I will never understand people who say that mortality is what gives life a meaning.

Same here. I wonder why they don't give even more meaning to their life by killing themselves right now.

Oh wait, it doesn't work that way. Death gives a meaning only when it is in a distant future... or some other excuse like that. But for some people, that future is now, or very soon. They would probably also prefer to have a "meaningful" death later rather than now.

[jajko]

You are confusing You-level and mankind-level, it was never about You. Meaning is there, but its not kind to people who think themselves as center of universe and mandatory part of it (we all are of our own version of reality but thats not what I mean).

Life well lived is a life thats easier to let go, believing in afterlife or not. Now what does that mean is highly individual but for most its around friends, family and children, mostly children. Most prople with kids have no problem seeing that meaning in mortality, plus there are even more logical and potent arguments (resources, selfishness, not ending up with immortal dictator forever etc but thats for longer)