[DangerousPie]

Keep in mind this is the incidence of cancer diagnoses. The quality of healthcare, diagnosis standards, and amount of preemptive screening varies heavily between countries.

[dauertewigkeit]

Even in pretty terrible healthcare systems, I would expect that close to 99% of people dying from cancer will actually be diagnosed with cancer, even if done too late.

[defrost]

The lowest rates are in central Africa, places where Cold War uranium was sourced from mines worked by humans with no real protection, etc.

Are the low rates due to healthy living, poor diagnostics, or dying of [other] before the cancer scores a mortality?

[rich_sasha]

Perhaps in poor healthcare locales the death certificate just says "dead". Some people might not see a doctor at any stage of the disease.

[roenxi]

This data doesn't seem to have much to do with deaths though, unless there is something on the page I'm missing?

[FrustratedMonky]

Yes. But I'd assume Europe would have at least equal diagnoses capability. So number of diagnoses should be similar.

So is US that much worse than Europe? Then we could start trying to pick apart differences, like diet, walking.

[pantalaimon]

What’s interesting is that Poland appears to stand out in Europe

[xbmcuser]

even Canada is half as much as USA but as it is still high compared to other so is dark blue

[gniv]

That's why I chose mostly developed countries when I posted.

Edit: I just realized that the link was changed. What I had initially was this: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/cancer-incidence?tab=char...

[dredmorbius]

AFAIU HN's posting system strips URL parameters.

If they're significant to your post you can email the mods at [e-mail] to restore them.

You might also want to write a top-level comment clarifying what you find significant about the URL and/or specific query.

[netsharc]

The 2020, 2021 dip looks fishy, I would hypothize this is related to the pandemic lockdowns and overburdened hospitals reducing the number of cancer diagnoses. But it's a hypothesis that would need to be confirmed with the relevant numbers.

[condiment]

It would be useful if the data differentiated by type of cancer. For instance, skin cancer diagnosis is straightforward and inexpensive. Visual identification and a biopsy, led by the patient noticing a difference. Contrast that with pancreatic cancer, which requires imaging for diagnosis.

As it is the only meaningful conclusion to draw from this data is that we need more data.

[Aeolun]

Japan has a fuckton of that (yearly mandatory medical checks) but I don’t see their numbers being crazily inflated.

[a_bonobo]

Japan, having ~the highest average age, should be on the top of the list but is not: second-highest bin. Australia is the skin cancer capital of the world ('Approximately 2 in 3 Australians will be diagnosed with skin cancer before the age of 70'), yet is in the third-highest bin. Isn't that interesting!

[dinobones]

To control for this I personally like comparing Murica North vs Murica South. (USA vs AUS).

3,304 vs 750