[machdiamonds]

Pretty simple explanations for all of those:

- xAI opens sources models with a 6 month lag, look at Grok 1

- No one else stopped development, so why should he?

- He owns Twitter, why wouldn't it be okay for him to train on Tweets?

[viraptor]

> xAI opens sources models with a 6 month lag, look at Grok 1

That's what happened once, rather than a policy that we can expect to be applied. (Unless I missed some announcement?) Based on "we'll publish the algorithm" which ended up being a one-off partial snapshot, never updated afterwards, I wouldn't hold my breath for the models.

> He owns Twitter, why wouldn't it be okay for him to train on Tweets?

There's a whole thing about having clear opt-in agreement about how your data will be used for EU citizens. Twitter didn't comply here with their hidden opt-out strategy.

[handsclean]

> He owns Twitter, why wouldn't it be okay for him to train on Tweets?

Because he doesn’t own the tweets. Can you imagine if posting a photo you took to Twitter meant it’s not your photo anymore? Totally ridiculous.

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[glass-z13]

I was under the impression ( and assumption ) that majority of mainstream social medias, literally, own everything that you post and archive it

[moralestapia]

Whoever owns the tweets is completely irrelevant.

If it is within his right to use this data for training purposes, then that's it.

And he is, btw.

And those terms were in place since way before he took over Twitter, btw, btw.

[infecto]

I cannot recall specifics but I thought this was very much a real thing with some sites? What you upload can be used by the publishing company.

[lenerdenator]

> - No one else stopped development, so why should he?

I thought it was a moral imperative or some such thing to do AI right because it could "destroy humanity"?

Or was that just Musk and the rest of the special people in SV's way of aggrandizing themselves while trying to do something most of them have either no experience in or fail miserably at, which is raise an intelligence to be a responsible actor?

[DrSiemer]

Regarding the last question: because nobody gave them permission to use that data.

They tried to add a pre-checked mark to the settings, but at least in Europe, where we actually have consumer protection, that won't fly.

[polski-g]

The data is sitting in northern Virginia in a data center. It's no longer in Europe's jurisdiction.