As long as they finally start adding plugin hybrids to the lineup. I'm itching to buy a PHEV tacoma, but it looks like midsize trucks will be the last form factor to get any decent options.
That's the plan once their battery factory in NC goes online.
Toyota's battery partner Idemetsu Kosan is also on the verge of mass producing solid-state batteries too, along with Mitsubishi's AGC along with CATL's founder TDK.
Japan's Public-Private Solid-State Battery R&D Strategy is a great template for how these kinds of research programs should be lead [0][1][2] but doesn't get enough limelight because most info is in Japanese
There is going to be no small PHEVs because it is cheaper to build small BEVs. Case example in Finland:
Cheapest new BEVs start at 25.000€ (Citroen e-c3, Nissan Leaf)
Cheapest PHEV Start at 33.000€ (Kia CEED, Renault captur)
People think PHEV makes things cheaper than BEV. But really mixing two powertrains is expensive and complex, and can only be fit in big cars. Plug-in hybrid is a luxury feature that allows you not worry about charging on the road.
There is a PHEV Prius which is not an SUV. It's not a small hatchback either, but yeah it's not a big car. And there is a PHEV C-HR too, which is more like a crossover than a proper SUV.
A small plugin hybrid doesn't make sense. It still needs room for both the ICE _and_ electrical parts. So the whole car is not scaling down, only the passenger compartment and luggage area.
That would be amazing, except the manufacturer incentives to do so are not there :-( I have a Volvo XC60 T8 with an 11.6kWh battery, and apparently their new 18.8kWh battery fits in the same space - but Volvo doesn't support that as an upgrade, because obviously they would rather sell you a new car than a new battery.
alephnerd|1 year ago
That's the plan once their battery factory in NC goes online.
Toyota's battery partner Idemetsu Kosan is also on the verge of mass producing solid-state batteries too, along with Mitsubishi's AGC along with CATL's founder TDK.
Japan's Public-Private Solid-State Battery R&D Strategy is a great template for how these kinds of research programs should be lead [0][1][2] but doesn't get enough limelight because most info is in Japanese
[0] - https://www.meti.go.jp/policy/energy_environment/global_warm...
[1] - https://www.meti.go.jp/english/report/pdf/0520_001a.pdf
[2] - https://www.meti.go.jp/english/policy/energy_environment/glo...
rwmj|1 year ago
happosai|1 year ago
Cheapest new BEVs start at 25.000€ (Citroen e-c3, Nissan Leaf)
Cheapest PHEV Start at 33.000€ (Kia CEED, Renault captur)
People think PHEV makes things cheaper than BEV. But really mixing two powertrains is expensive and complex, and can only be fit in big cars. Plug-in hybrid is a luxury feature that allows you not worry about charging on the road.
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tasty_freeze|1 year ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Prius_Plug-in_Hybrid
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