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rwl4 | 1 year ago

So I'm trying to understand. Is this spam for the Lamucal service? I saw this same code posted on Reddit the other day under a different name. Here are a few repos with the exact same code under different names:

- https://github.com/DoMusic/Hybrid-Net

- https://github.com/TuneMusic/NiceMusic

- https://github.com/JoinMusic/fish

- https://github.com/Famuse/CombineNet

- https://github.com/AIAudioLab/AITabs

- https://github.com/AIMusicLab/MicroMuisc

I'm pretty sure there are more, but I'll stop there. Especially suspicious considering all the usernames.

Here's a post from yesterday on Reddit:

- https://www.reddit.com/r/coolaitools/comments/1ervthn/found_...

I'm guessing the general process here is:

- Push novelty (but unusable to most people) code to new Github repo

- Submit that code to Reddit/Hacker News

- People see it and are impressed by the novelty code, despite not running it due to missing the models themselves, etc. They upvote and subscribe ($$$) to actually try it.

- Repeat

I understand the desire to promote one's new service, and the product seems like it could be interesting, but this is not the way to get the word out. Reputation matters.

Edit:

Check out the user deeplover's post/comment history. One submission with the MicroMusic (see above) repo, and one comment, see below.

Also, the post by user liwei0517 is almost exactly like BigOrange688 on Reddit. See: https://www.reddit.com/r/MachineLearning/comments/1es0deh/co...

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skeaker|1 year ago

This is really strange. I'd rather not name names in case I'm wrong, but some of the comments in this thread that link to "things they made" on Lamucal are by very fishy accounts. Account was made a few months ago, only has four comments on seemingly random articles, the comments are either extremely brief or seemingly ChatGPT-generated, then after months of inactivity they pop up in this thread. Not usually one to complain about this but with your comment showing all the other times this has popped up it's way too strange.

sixall|1 year ago

I am an entrepreneur, and my startup team is about to fail. In response to the questions raised by rwl4, I am very sorry. All the features on our website are completely free for everyone to use. If we can help some people, it will be a small consolation for the team before the failure. I apologize again.

rwl4|1 year ago

Look, I get it. Startups are hard. Desperation can lead to poor choices. But spamming isn't the answer and will burn bridges faster than you can build them.

If you are genuinely sorry and want to (possibly) turn this around, here are some ideas:

1. Consolidate your work into one solid well documented Github repo, including a small toy model that people can actually use and play with.

2. Write a blog post or tutorial about your tech. That'll show your expertise without making people feel like they are being duped.

3. Engage in relevant communities genuinely. Build relationships, not just a user base.

4. Use proper channels for promotion... Show HN exists for a reason.

Remember, reputation is currency in this industry. It's hard to earn and easy to lose. Take the long view, build something good, be transparent, and let organic interest do its thing...

If your product is actually solid, there are ways to get it out there. It might be slower, but it's at least sustainable. Good luck.

HanClinto|1 year ago

This comment is a far more interesting story than the project itself.

crustaceansoup|1 year ago

That other, probably-related Hacker News user posted a response to a suicide crisis post that looks like a "four-paragraph standard ChatGPT response", complete with a "Lastly, " at the end. I hope that wasn't done just to increase that account's seeming legitimacy because wow, what incredibly bad taste.

sixall|1 year ago

As an entrepreneur, doing this kind of not-so-glorious thing to promote my own features, I already feel quite pathetic about myself. Being pointed out by rwl4, I can also take a deep breath. I would like to apologize to the people who have been disturbed, and also apologize to the platform.

jokethrowaway|1 year ago

Cool tech but right now making money with AI is 10x harder than raising from investors.

I'd recommend consulting on the side to keep lights on, there is demand for AI consulting, while there is still hype about AI.

hu3|1 year ago

I respect the hustle.

As an entrepreneur, you're light years further than most of us will ever be.

Chin up! Launch again, launch different, launch something else, Pivot if need be. You make me proud.