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failbuffer | 1 year ago

RPi has an ecosystem and great documentation. People use it for projects because every tutorial and YouTube video out there shows you how to get the job done with an RPi. There's a jillion expansion boards (HATs), hundreds of 3D prints, many ready to run OS images (selectable from an easy to use flashing tool), and even a first party camera module. The 40 pin GPIO header has stuck around unchanged thru all but the earliest hardware generations. Does the N100 offer that?

There are more performant and efficient alternatives, but for many hobbyists, prototypers, startups, and students (or rather, their teachers) it's not worth the extra time/headaches/hassle to start adapting an rpi solution to non-rpi hardware.

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magicalhippo|1 year ago

You completely missed my point. We already had the RPi4, and it was sold for $35 for the 2GB model. It was perfect at that. I had enough grunt, and 2GB was enough for a lot of use-cases. I still use mine for a lot of various tasks. One is my GPS-driven NTP server for example. Don't need lots of RAM for that, but do need the GPIOs.

What I said was, I don't get the RPi5 value proposition. It's fairly expensive so not just something you throw at simple tasks like an NTP server without consideration.

If you need grunt and RAM, well, why not just pay a bit more and get tons more of that? You get more PCIe, you get way more RAM, CPU and GPU, in a form factor that's not that much larger. And it's x86 so you're not facing the kernel support issues like OrangePi and friends.

In my experience, there's very little overlap between "need hardware GPIO pins" and "need 8+GB of RAM and/or lots of compute".

alias_neo|1 year ago

There's also the point that Pi5 actually took a step back from a Pi4 in some specific applications; It doesn't have the hardware video encoders the Pi4 had so for things like 3D printers (I use a Pi4 in my Voron) where you want the CPU concentrating on printing while the hardware encoders take off the load for video streaming from a camera, the Pi4 is the end of the line.

Totally in agreement with you though, even as a huge fan of Raspberry Pi, the Pi 5s are overkill for the tasks they're capable of, and overpriced and underperforming in the tasks a mini-PC can do for 2-4x the price (maybe less once you factor in a PSU, case, storage etc).