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mikhael28 | 1 year ago

Ask for a raise once a year, be happy if you don’t get one, and if a competitor tries to hire you away for a lot more money, stay loyal.

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hansvm|1 year ago

Wasting company time attracting competitors is surely a violation of your fiduciary duty. I don't pay you to sleep or eat, so why should I pay you to interview? At our competitors no less?

For anyone reading this thread seriously, the job market is fine, feel free to market your skills. As a rule of thumb, if your employer didn't agree to the raise till you presented a counteroffer then you should almost always leave. No matter what your employer said when you started or thereafter, if you're doing a fantastic job the "once per year" bonus/promotion cycle is bubkiss, and they will absolutely compensate you accordingly (on the flip-side, if you haven't been hired yet, don't start underleveled with a promise of a promotion except in dire circumstances; this has been hashed out before, but reply if you want more details).

Bluecobra|1 year ago

> if you haven't been hired yet, don't start underleveled with a promise of a promotion except in dire circumstances

I had this happen to me before, I was interviewing for a senior position and everything went well except the CTO decided I wasn’t senior enough for him. He said I could get there in a year or so if I met a few goals, got a few certs, etc. They even went as far as pulling the original job requisition off the website and downgrading it to a non-senior role. This (and a few other things) left a bad taste in my mouth and I politely declined the offer.

mikhael28|1 year ago

I made a non-serious, sarcastic and parodious comment in a serious thread. My bad guys!

I just think non-competes are bad for employees though - if someone sells trade secrets, that can be somewhat obvious, and can be pursued legally without non-competes. It just creates an environment that keeps people down at the benefit of the powerful.

yoyohello13|1 year ago

Exactly, bend the knee to your corporate lords and they may show your favor.

bearjaws|1 year ago

Damn dude the market is bad but its not that bad.

mikhael28|1 year ago

lol I was trying to be sarcastic, came off as bitter?

I’m not even looking for a job, I’m traveling the world and living my best life. I think my comment was more about how non-competes encourage toxic ideas of what loyalty you, as a free agent, are supposed to offer people who are fundamentally just paying you some money while they don’t reciprocate. Not that I’ve had this experience myself, just something I’ve seen others go through. I’ve had nothing but great employers for the most part.