Not being able to exclude people because of preexisting conditions and ensuring children have access to coverage seems like a pretty big success story.
Is it perfect? No, probably not. But repealing it would likely increase the budget deficit according to the CBO and put a large number of folks into a much worse situation than they are in now.
Indeed, at the time it was widely understood that Obamacare was about access, not cost. This was a necessary compromise in order to placate the insurance industry.
On the one hand, yeah of course guaranteeing coverage for children and preexisting conditions is an obvious win. And removing coverage caps.
But beyond that... has average life expectancy measurably increased because of this "extra" insurance coverage?
Has the number of medical-related bankruptcies measurably decreased as a result of the expanded coverage?
I can't find solid data but everything I've seen suggests that those haven't really changed at all.
Given that, in the grand scheme of things, has anything actually improved for us, collectively? Healthcare is much more expensive now, but maybe that would have happened regardless.
It is objectively a success lol. The elimination of preexisting conditions and annual/lifetime coverage caps alone was huge. Not to mention the tens of millions of people who received health insurance who wouldn't have had any at all.
It is insane to me you are going to sit there and try to act otherwise.
Are you currently playing the premium for a family of four with a decent deductible where it doesn’t feel like you empty your pockets because you want to make sure your pain isn’t going to kill you?
I don't deny that it sucks that health insurance is so expensive. Of course it sucks. And I have tons of empathy for anyone who is suffering under the expenses. But blaming our current costs on PPACA is just not supported by the evidence I'm seeing. If you have other evidence I should look at, I welcome it.
Insurance is going up across the board, it’s not a healthcare thing. Obamacare can be successful while premiums go up as well, it is not mutually exclusive.
How do you know that Obamacare isn't the thing that's causing insurance to go up across the board?
If everyone is ensured, no matter the pre-existinf conditions, people take more risks, live more dangerously, drive a little faster, eat a bit worse, etc.
Nobody ever talks about the hidden consequences of these oh so wonderful government programs.
The premiums are going up because someone has to pay for the profits of the for profit insurance companies, of the for profit hospitals etc
They all have to report yoy increase of earnings right?
So there enjoy your capitalistic health insurance. Which by the way dumps you once you are old, then I have to pay for you too despite the fact it is you who wanted a completely deregulated health insurance market.
tuckerman|1 year ago
Is it perfect? No, probably not. But repealing it would likely increase the budget deficit according to the CBO and put a large number of folks into a much worse situation than they are in now.
analog31|1 year ago
The battle over cost was left for another day.
pton_xd|1 year ago
But beyond that... has average life expectancy measurably increased because of this "extra" insurance coverage?
Has the number of medical-related bankruptcies measurably decreased as a result of the expanded coverage?
I can't find solid data but everything I've seen suggests that those haven't really changed at all.
Given that, in the grand scheme of things, has anything actually improved for us, collectively? Healthcare is much more expensive now, but maybe that would have happened regardless.
Cody-99|1 year ago
It is insane to me you are going to sit there and try to act otherwise.
sem000|1 year ago
VikingCoder|1 year ago
https://www.kff.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/Figure-1-12.p...
It should be obvious, right?
I don't deny that it sucks that health insurance is so expensive. Of course it sucks. And I have tons of empathy for anyone who is suffering under the expenses. But blaming our current costs on PPACA is just not supported by the evidence I'm seeing. If you have other evidence I should look at, I welcome it.
pixelatedindex|1 year ago
KetoManx64|1 year ago
If everyone is ensured, no matter the pre-existinf conditions, people take more risks, live more dangerously, drive a little faster, eat a bit worse, etc. Nobody ever talks about the hidden consequences of these oh so wonderful government programs.
drawkward|1 year ago
amanaplanacanal|1 year ago
whatever1|1 year ago
They all have to report yoy increase of earnings right?
So there enjoy your capitalistic health insurance. Which by the way dumps you once you are old, then I have to pay for you too despite the fact it is you who wanted a completely deregulated health insurance market.
unknown|1 year ago
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johnnyanmac|1 year ago