[notShabu]

behind a lot of these are power games made particularly perverse bc the participants tend to believe that they are above power games via dedication-to-the-truth or something

the more knotted and unaccepted the actual hierarchy vs the perceived hierarchy, the more of this kind of behavior. the more people feel respected the less they have to force behavior from others to make up for the feeling of lack of respect.

particularly toxic are places where a local tyrant believes that they deserve a lot more respect than they actually do (e.g. expert beginnerism)