[rlonstein]

> granted, he'll probably fuck up his first two or three pretty good without haynes or chilton

Given the assumptions, inaccuracies, and mistakes I've seen in some Haynes and Chilton manuals they'll probably fuck up with them. Factory manuals are usually worth the price (Honda's are, KTM's not so much).

[kragen]

i certainly did. haynes is no substitute for clue