[caskstrength]

> Ukraine. We spent a week being confused because the Ukrainiens expected the electricity bill to be calculated based on the size of your house and how many animals you have. The concept of a domestic electricity meter was completely foreign to them.

What are you talking about? Private apartments and houses in Ukraine had domestic electricity meters installed since soviet times.

[sjducb]

Elites in Kiev had all kinds of fancy stuff. They’re not the ones working for 30% of a western developers wage.