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vwkd | 1 year ago

https://x.com/christogrozev/status/1827450631462048023

> I wonder what caught up with him first: the undisturbed sale of hard drugs vIa telegram, or the undisturbed recruitment of freelancers for GRU's terrorist attacks across Europe.

Seems there could be some truth to the accusations.

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codedokode|1 year ago

Cannot terrorist-freelancers (whatever that means) be recruited with Element, Signal, VK or email on Yandex?

kelnos|1 year ago

Sure, but if the people who run those services are responsive to law enforcement requests about that behavior, the law is usually satisfied.

Telegram's policy is apparently to not moderate anything, and ignore law enforcement requests.

I'm not saying Telegram is right or wrong here, just that their behavior may not be legal in places like France.

LtWorf|1 year ago

Yes but those are probably backdoored by USA so ok.

enbugger|1 year ago

>christogrozev

Well, if this guy starts damage controlling, this is definitely a CIA operation

pityJuke|1 year ago

All I’ll say about Grozev is read his Wikipedia. A brilliant journalist. He’s in that video where Navalny calls the guy that poisoned him.

cybersebi|1 year ago

My working theory is that by making it difficult for the average user to activate end-to-end encrypted chats, especially compared to industry standards, and by positioning the service as an 'anything goes' platform, Mr. Durov might have created the world's largest Kompromat machine.

[1]: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kompromat

pajeets|1 year ago

Telegram and cryptocurrency has single handedly responsible for the recent drug epidemic, sex blackmail rings in South Korea.

Cant say I have good things to say about Telegram founders and operators. Its not some innocent "free speech" messenger app, its sinister

codedokode|1 year ago

You won't believe for what are responsible paper money printed by central banks.

As for those South Korea-related stories, the blame is partially on the government. For example, an operator of a website selling illegal videos got only 18 months in that country [1].

[1] https://www.chinadailyhk.com/hk/article/135865

Ylpertnodi|1 year ago

>Telegram and cryptocurrency has single handedly responsible for the recent drug epidemic,

I thought Reagan beat that with his war on drugs? Obviously flippant comment, but wouldn't it be more appropriate to say "Te....chnology has single handedly responsible for the recent drug epidemic,", to which I would answer 'No, it's always been about dollar bills, and what 'recent' drug epidemic?" The US opioid crisis wasn't fuelled by telegram.

kjkjadksj|1 year ago

Still a bs argument. 1890s, terrorists takes a mule to the assassination. 1920s, terrorist drives a car to the assassination, and now we deem henry ford liable because of it.