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choward | 1 year ago

Mail out ballots then require an ID when you turn it in. Make it easier to get an ID if that's a problem. It seems pretty simple to me. Not sure why anyone would be against this.

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philipov|1 year ago

> Make it easier to get an ID if that's a problem. ... Not sure why anyone would be against this.

Because the same people trying to make IDs required also want them to be harder to get, not easier.

wakawaka28|1 year ago

Issuing ID is a fixable problem and you can fight about ID issuance without upsetting anyone. It's not acceptable to respond to perceived inefficiency in ID issuance by letting people vote without ID. Realistically, it is impossible to live a normal life without ID as it is. The only people I expect to have trouble getting ID are the very elderly and disabled who have no transportation at all. That too can be fixed.

willcipriano|1 year ago

Due to previous rulings on poll taxes, any place where ID is required to vote, ID is also required to be obtainable for free.

The people repeating this myth are smart enough to know better so one must assume they intend to have people who can't obtain ID via legal means, voting.

mminer237|1 year ago

I have never heard of anyone pushing to make IDs harder to get.

sandworm101|1 year ago

> Not sure why anyone would be against this.

Because of all the edge cases. Some people do not have ID. Some have ID but it doesn't match their current address. Some people have ID but the same name+address as a dead person (not uncommon when people inherit houses from dead parents). Most people would be fine with ID requirements if they could trust that these edge cases will not be leveraged by some local volunteer with an agenda. In the never-ending 50-50 split of US politics, edge cases are too often the decider. See Florida 2000, where those who couldn't properly punch a hole in a piece of paper ended up deciding the presidency.

jeffbee|1 year ago

We're against it because allowing ten thousand unelected petty bureaucrats to adjudicate whether a voter is or is not allowed to cast their ballot on election day isn't a good system.

weaksauce|1 year ago

to anyone wondering what this looks like in practice... google "hanging chad"

wakawaka28|1 year ago

>Mail out ballots then require an ID when you turn it in. Make it easier to get an ID if that's a problem. It seems pretty simple to me. Not sure why anyone would be against this.

There needs to be accountability when it comes to voting. Mail is not acceptable for voting, especially if you make it as inconvenient as voting in person.

What I would like is to make voting day a holiday. Then we can put all these absurd arguments about how people can't get to the polls with valid ID to rest. Let the people who must work on election day vote early. Vote on paper, none of this unaccountable and glitchy electronic garbage. We have more tech than ever and our elections take longer to count than those in countries that use paper.