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kitkat_new | 1 year ago

tips should be banned

not only is it a shitty source of income, it also exposes you to sexism, racism and makes you tolerate shit things, because your income could be at risk standing up for yourself.

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next_xibalba|1 year ago

Have you ever worked a job where you get tipped? I have. I was both a bartender and a server and my income was far better than both 1) the alternatives for which I was qualified, and 2) what my income would have been on flat, higher wage. If you haven't worked a job like that, it might be worth talking to people who do or have.

margalabargala|1 year ago

I have; I worked in an ice cream stand at a dairy farm. And you're correct, because of the tips we made much more than we would have even if we had had a higher wage.

But to the point of the person you replied to, on the busy days, there would be two of us working. We were free to split labor however we liked. We made far more tips when it was my attractive, female, coworker taking orders and interacting with the customers, and me scooping, than the other way around. People absolutely do tip differently based on their biases regarding the worker they are interacting with.

nitwit005|1 year ago

Yes, there will be some people who are tipped an unusually high amount who will lose out.

But almost any significant policy or social change will have an impact like that. You have to basically give up on fixing anything if you're not willing to impact anyone.

manuelmoreale|1 year ago

Potentially very stupid question: should I add a tip % on my invoices as a freelance developer?

settsu|1 year ago

I've never worked full-time since I was 16 but never a job where tipping was the norm (I'm in the US) so maybe I'm missing something obvious but isn't a stable income preferable? And where is the assumption coming from that doing away with tips invariably requires making less money?

throw_m239339|1 year ago

In some cultures, people "tip" teachers, police officers, doctors, politicians, judges... you know where I'm going with that...

I'm not saying tips should be banned but there certainly is a "cultural aspect" to tipping...

maximinus_thrax|1 year ago

No, they don't. You're trying a false equivalency between a bribe and gratuity. A bribe happens before the service is provided and the service is contingent upon the bribe. Gratuity is post factum, technically based on the quality of the service provided.