[zerodensity]

> I don't think this is true either - a large part of the Rust community seem to think that it's as complicated as it needs to be. As a beginner/outsider, I found it kind of cumbersome to get started with, but that's certainly not everyone's opinion.

Personally I feel it's not complicated enough. Where is my function overloading, variadic templates and usable compile time reflection? (Sure you can sometimes use macros but ew macros)

[swiftcoder]

> Personally I feel it's not complicated enough. Where is my function overloading, variadic templates and usable compile time reflection? (Sure you can sometimes use macros but ew macros)

Indeed. Rust is really crying out for a real CTFE implementation + richer macros to replace the mess that is procmacros (I really don't want to have to run an arbitrary external binary with full system access just to manipulate the AST...)