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outop | 1 year ago

But you're now talking about a much smaller group within the US Air Force. Obviously if you zoom in on any small unit of any force, you can find units with extremely high casualty rates.

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dredmorbius|1 year ago

See my comment above. Total air crew and merchant-marine sailor contingents were likely somewhat comparable.

The US built ~35k bombers during WWII, generally with large crew sizes: 8 for the B-24 Liberator (18,118 built), 10 for the B-17 Flying Fortress (12,731), 11 for the B-29 (3,970). That's ~35k aircraft, which would have required at least 3,500 crew members, and probably a multiple of that (presuming several crews per aircraft to sustain multiple missions).

That does make the bomber crew contingent itself smaller than the merchant marine, and air losses seemed to be concentrated among bomber crews, which were larger, slower, and generally more vulnerable than fighters or fighter-bombers.

mulmen|1 year ago

> presuming several crews per aircraft to sustain multiple missions

Everything I have ever read suggests crews “owned” their bombers. This is how you see nose art.

There weren’t multiple crews per aircraft although sometimes crews would share planes if their aircraft was damaged and the other crew suffered casualties but that wasn’t a daily thing. Certainly there weren’t multiple crews per aircraft.

Wikipedia says 350,000 Americans served in the 8th air force alone. That’s larger than the 215,000 of the maritime service.

Wiki says 3.4 million total in the Air force but most of that is not air crews. You need a literal army of mechanics, ground crews, and mission planners.

I can’t find numbers to answer the “most dangerous job” question but everyone suffered greatly.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eighth_Air_Force (Defeat of the Luftwaffe)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties#mili...

mattmaroon|1 year ago

Posthumous Purple Heart awardees had a casualty rate of 100%!