[wrenky]

AND holy shit I have to install another venv to run special-snowflake-3 script I will literally lose it. I literally have a folder of all the venvs I need to run one-off shit people pass me. I get the lack of wanting to compile things but thats not a problem with modern build systems like Rust/Go have- Beyond trivial.

[awesomebytes]

I have recently started to use uv, and you can just do "uvx tool" and it executes the tool (https://docs.astral.sh/uv/guides/tools/). Sure, the tool needs to do something to be able to be executed like that, but it seems pretty easy. And there's also a way to embed the dependencies with a comment at the top of a python script: https://docs.astral.sh/uv/guides/scripts/#running-a-script-w...

The venv created for this is ephemereal (it can not be if you want), so you don't need to keep in mind cleaning up stuff and so. Also uv is really fast in creating the venv and installing whatever is needed. Coming from using plain pip and venvs (and having pain setting up different python version interpreters for projects), and poetry just after that, I am pretty happy with the improvements.

[blackfawn]

Yeah, really... Python tries to hide some of the insanity behind venvs, conda, etc. but it often ends up some dependency nightmare that's barely holding together. Everyone that tells me "oh Python is so great, it just works" is either only using it for the absolute most basic tasks or kidding themselves. I'd often get a blank stare when I respond to that with "then why am I helping you fix this virtual environment with gigs of cruft for a 'simple task' that has suddenly and inexplicably stopped working for you?"

The equivalent things in Go, Rust, etc are a breath of fresh air for sure