[NotACop182]

unfortunately, outrage only lasts a few weeks and then the consumer rolls over. I can see a future market for dumb cars.

[austin-cheney]

That depends on the person. I refuse to ever buy a Tesla because it’s filled with smart technology insanity and then they charge a subscription for this punishment they force on you.

All I need is a stick shift and radio smart enough to parse and navigate mp3 files. The car doesn’t even have to come with that radio as it’s a trivial aftermarket upgrade.

[azhenley]

I’ve owned a Tesla since 2018 and never paid a subscription nor needed one.

[darknavi]

My Model 3 and Model Y do not have AM but do have FM. Did they remove that from base models?

You can also play MP3 files from a flash drive and navigate.

Can't help you with the stick shift though!

[sandebert]

I suppose a "dumb car" should be called "feature car", the same way as old-school mobiles are called "feature phones".

[JohnFen]

Feature phones are not old-school mobile phones. They're crippled smartphones. As near as I can tell, nobody actually makes good old, dumb, cellphones anymore.

[junaru]

There is no future for dumb cars. They will be outlawed just like ICE ones in the coming decades.

You will not even be able to manually drive as you will be deemed too much of a hazard for all the autonomous cars.

[hedora]

We’re starting to see this. For instance, some cars have absurdly overactive VESS (engine tone) systems.

Some are so loud they wake up neighbors. Others don’t shut off at the NHTSA recommended 30kph, and sound like distant ambulances on the freeway.

Even if it is legal to disable them, many insurance policies include a carve out that invalidates your coverage if you do so. So, you could lose your house as punishment without ever getting to defend yourself in front of a jury.