[hungie]

The labor involved is highly skilled, and has seen extensive underpayment. When Boeing tried to ship manufacturing away from union shops, the quality and reliability of the planes plummeted, driving up costs for the company.

As a frequent flier, I'd much rather be in a union plane than a "cheapest labor we could find" plane.

[fyrn_]

Union labor is only going to be better if the work is compensated enough that people stay around. Unions are not magic. Boeing has not been doing that.

They underestimate the value of retaining people who have actually seen a few full plane lines start. They are in a situation now where there are not enough senior personal to properly guide new hires as they rotate through every 1-2 years. You want good people, you have to pay for them.

[ncallaway]

Yeah I’m sure that was the union’s fault, and not pressure from management to work quickly, cut corners, and akip on quality.

Honestly, anyone blaming unions for Boeings quality problems are not someone that anyone should listen to or take seriously when it comes to quality.