[berniedurfee]

I’m starting to think this is an unsolvable problem with LLMs. The very act of “reasoning” requires one to know that they don’t know something.

LLMs are giant word Plinko machines. A million monkeys on a million typewriters.

LLMs are not interns. LLMs are assumption machines.

None of the million monkeys or the collective million monkeys are “reasoning” or are capable of knowing.

LLMs are a neat parlor trick and are super powerful, but are not on the path to AGI.

LLMs will change the world, but only in the way that the printing press changed the world. They’re not interns, they’re just tools.

[idiotsecant]

I think LLMs are definitely on the path to AGI in the same way that the ball bearing was on the path to the internal combustion engine. I think its quite likely that LLMs will perform important functions within the system of an eventual AGI.

[HarHarVeryFunny]

We're learning valuable lessons from all modern large-scale (post-AlexNet) NN architectures, transformers included, and NNs (but maybe trained differently) seem a viable approach to implement AGI, so we're making progress ... but maybe LLMs will be more inspiration than part of the (a) final solution.

OTOH, maybe pre-trained LLMs could be used as a hardcoded "reptilian brain" that provides some future AGI with some base capabilities (vs being sold as newborn that needs 20 years of parenting to be useful) that the real learning architecture can then override.

[swader999]

This may be accurate. I wonder if there's enough energy in the world for this endeavour.

[famouswaffles]

LLMs mostly know what they know. Of course, that doesn't mean they're going to tell you.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41504226

[awb]

It probably depends on your problem space. In creative writing, I wonder if its even perceptible if the LLM is creating content at the boundaries of its knowledge base. But for programming or other falsifiable (and rapidly changing) disciplines it is noticeable and a problem.

Maybe some evaluation of the sample size would be helpful? If the LLM has less than X samples of an input word or phrase it could include a cautionary note in its output, or even respond with some variant of “I don’t know”.

[ijk]

In creative writing the problem becomes things like word choice and implications that have unexpected deviations from its expectations.

It can get really obvious when it's repeatedly using clichés. Both in repeated phrases and in trying to give every story the same ending.

[freejazz]

> I wonder if its even perceptible if the LLM is creating content at the boundaries of its knowledge base

The problem space in creative writing is well beyond the problem space for programming or other "falsifiable disciplines".

[0xdeadbeefbabe]

> It probably depends on your problem space

Makes me wonder if the medical doctors can ever blame the LLM over other factors for killing their patients.