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rnxrx | 1 year ago

In my experience the environment where the drives are running makes a huge difference in longevity. There's a ton more variability in residential contexts than in data center (or even office) space. Potential temperature and humidity variability is a notable challenge but what surprised me was the marked effect of even small amounts of dust.

Many years ago I was running an 8x500G array in an old Dell server in my basement. The drives were all factory-new Seagates - 7200RPM and may have been the "enterprise" versions (i.e. not cheap). Over 5 years I ended up averaging a drive failure every 6 months. I ran with 2 parity drives, kept spares around and RMA'd the drives as they broke.

I moved houses and ended up with a room dedicated to lab stuff. With the same setup I ended up going another 5 years without a single failure. It wasn't a surprise that the new environment was better, but it was surprising how much better a cleaner, more stable environment ended up being.

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kalleboo|1 year ago

A drive failure every 6 months almost sounds more like dirty power than dust, I’ve always kept my NAS/file servers in dusty residential environments (I have a nice fuzzy gray Synology logo visible right now) and never seen anything like that

bitexploder|1 year ago

Drives are sealed anyway. Humidity maybe. Dust can’t really get in. Power or bad batch of drives.

ylee|1 year ago

>Many years ago I was running an 8x500G array in an old Dell server in my basement. The drives were all factory-new Seagates - 7200RPM and may have been the "enterprise" versions (i.e. not cheap). Over 5 years I ended up averaging a drive failure every 6 months. I ran with 2 parity drives, kept spares around and RMA'd the drives as they broke.

Hah! I had a 16x500GB Seagate array and also averaged an RMA every six months. I think there was a firmware issue with that generation.

stavros|1 year ago

How does dust affect things? The drives are airtight.

kenhwang|1 year ago

They're airtight now (at the high end or enterprise level). They weren't airtight not very long ago and had filters to regulate the air exchange.

deafpolygon|1 year ago

everything else isn't. the dust can get into power supplies and cause irregularities.

mapt|1 year ago

"Do you think that's air you're breathing?"

This is no longer much of an issue with sealed, helium filled drives, if it ever was.

Loughla|1 year ago

Are your platters open to air? Or was it the cooling system? I'm confused.

daniel-s|1 year ago

Does dust matter for SSD drives?

earleybird|1 year ago

Only when checking for finger prints :-)