[dvdbloc]

I’ve heard if you are on focus when you quit you may have a lifetime ban on ever coming back anywhere in Amazon. Is this correct?

[zmgsabst]

I filed a formal complaint Brian O was breaching fiduciary duty in the 10-K and was subsequently fired unceremoniously for my “performance” by two directors on a call the next morning.

Amazon tried to hire me back 6 months later, from multiple recruiters. My former manager and I had a good laugh that somehow I wasn’t blacklisted.

I wouldn’t worry about it, too much.

[neofrommatrix]

Amazon always needs bodies. So whatever ban there is, they will “make an exception”..

[lazide]

Not necessarily for you. To make an example.

There are new people entering the industry all the time, they don’t necessarily need any one given individual again ever.

[spike021]

This may also be the case for URA (unregrettable attribution?). Someone I know left just short of two years for personal reasons, was never put in PIP/Focus, and then they tried joining a new team after and was told when they left their manager put them as URA, which prevents them from coming back. I've heard it can just be a year, though.

[immibis]

Unregretted attrition, which means you no longer work there and you're not sorry about it.

Which means you are the one with the power in the negotiation (the party with the most power is the one who needs the other the least).

So they have a codified sour grapes rule to punish people who they don't have power over? To punish people who weren't begging to please continue being allowed to work there? That is actual insanity right there.

[sarlalian]

My understanding of URA, is that it's when a manager is able to manage a person into leaving the job that they can't justify firing, but really don't want on the team. So then the person leaves, and is flagged as we didn't want to keep them anyway.

[indrora]

I have seen this prove to be false multiple times. The reasonable falloff is ~5Y.

[unsnap_biceps]

Yes