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bydo | 1 year ago

This is (only a few years later than the rest of the world's) state-of-the-art manufacturing, built only with the expertise of a Taiwanese company, that relies on the technology of a Dutch company, that in turn purchased (and has since monopolized) its IP from another US company, twenty years ago, and only then because a number of other companies (notably Canon and Nikon, both in Japan) were excluded from using it.

It is not something to be celebrated. What TSMC and ASML are doing is amazing, but we could be so much further ahead.

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breerbgoat|1 year ago

If you look at it from a geopolitical angle, it's much to be celebrated. It means US can rely on its democratic like minded friends to help protect the supply chain of cutting edge chips, against the now very visible alliance of dictatorships (Russia, China, North Korea, Iran).

And make no doubt about it, there is a democratic alliance vs dictatorships here. Russia is aggressively sourcing artillery shells from North Korea, ballistic missiles from Iran, and financing and weapons from China. China incidentally is the economic caretaker of Iran and North Korea.

US accuses China of giving ‘very substantial’ help to Russia’s war machine https://www.politico.eu/article/united-states-accuse-china-h...

China’s Double Threat to Europe: How Beijing’s Support for Moscow and Quest for EV Dominance Undermine European Security https://www.foreignaffairs.com/china/chinas-double-threat-eu...

thomasahle|1 year ago

> If you look at it from a geopolitical angle, it's much to be celebrated.

I'm not sure. Taiwan is already a democratic ally. They are relying on the chip manufacture to keep them safe politically. Without that they'll quickly get "absorbed" by China.

The US decoupling and isolating technologically/economically from the rest of the world, likely makes war more likely. Not less.

isr|1 year ago

Ah, ok. If we're going to be throwing in personal takes on geopolitics, then here's mine.

Less of the "democracies vs dictatorships". It's more like "western imperialism (essentially US & vassals) vs the rest of the world (who wants out of imperialism, endless sanctions, endless wars, the odd genocide or two)"

lynx23|1 year ago

Why is democracy relevant here? Seems like a rather random words thrown in to support your point, without any actual relevance. We're talking supply-chain here. And capitalism. Both really dont care what and if people voted.

deletedie|1 year ago

Sadly the State Dept.'s moral panic over a non-aligned Military Complex rings somewhat hollow against the backdrop of 'very substantial' support in an on-going genocide.

Coincidentally, it was Chinese intervention that brought an end to the last genocide the State Dept. was facilitating; the delineation of allies likely warrants reflection