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mmd45 | 1 year ago

unfortunately none of that applies to my setup. my imap server lives in a dmz and doesn't have all that other jazz.

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nucleardog|1 year ago

Mine too. It does apply.

Seems to be a safe assumption you have a domain since you're receiving mail.

Go run something like certbot[0] on your mail server. It has plugins to integrate with various DNS providers. (This is who is hosting the zone where you map domains to IPs, not necessarily where you registered the domain.) If they don't have a plugin for your host, you could look at moving the zone (e.g., CloudFlare is free for something like this, Route53 is <$1/mo) or finding another tool that does support it[1].

No external IPs involved anywhere and you can get valid, trusted SSL certificates for your domain. Set up the auto-renewal (in essentially all cases, add something to crontab), and it'll periodically dump new certificates to disk for you so you never need to think about the certificates again.

If you don't even want anyone to know that there's a "imap.mmd45.com" in existence _somewhere_ in the world, you can issue a certificate for `*.mmd45.com` and it will cover any direct subdomains.

Now you actually need to _connect_ to your mailserver with some sort of hostname rather than IP. For desktop devices and stuff, you could just throw this in /etc/hosts if you wanted. Some VPN/VPN-adjacent tools have ways to push mappings like that. Basically all of them have a way to override the DNS server in use if you were willing to run your own DNS server on the same host that has your mailserver. You can also just create a public record mapping imap.mmd45.com to 10.1.2.3.

[0] https://eff-certbot.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ [1] https://letsencrypt.org/docs/client-options/

0x457|1 year ago

Only thing required for this setup to work: client needs to be able to resolve domain to internal ip.

I have wireguard mesh with a bunch of services that use LE for TLS that have no access to interwebs and not accessible from interwebs.

mschuster91|1 year ago

> Only thing required for this setup to work: client needs to be able to resolve domain to internal ip.

It does not. Use DNS validation, that way you can issue LE certs for individual domains as well as wildcard certificates without needing to expose anything anywhere other than a CNAME record for the validation.

mmd45|1 year ago

how are you renewing the LE certificate if the domain is resolving to an internal ip? this seems like a big hoop to jump through.

Spivak|1 year ago

This can still work imap.mydomain.com resolving to your hardcoded private ip, put the cert on your imap server, connect by name, done.

lxgr|1 year ago

This won't work on many home routers that filter out private/local IP A/AAAA records from DNS responses to protect against DNS rebinding.