[sandij]

This article is very relevant in the context of the EU Digital Identity Wallet, and digital credentials in general, such as ISO/IEC 18013-5 mobile driver licenses and other mdocs.

We may accidentially end up with non-repudiation of attribute presentation, thinking that this increases assurance for the parties involved in a transaction. The legal framework is not designed for this and insufficiently protects the credential subject for example.

Instead, the high assurance use cases should complement digital credentials (with plausible deniability of past presentations) with qualified e-signatures and e-seals. For these, the EU for example does provide a legal framework that protects both the relying party and the signer.

[lmm]

Isn't non-repudiation something we want for cases like this? If e.g. a car rental place checks your driving license before renting you a car, and then you get into a crash, no-one wants you to be able to claim that you never showed them your driving license and they never checked.

[sandij]

To prove that the car rental company has seen the driver licence, they just need to show the judge a copy of the licence which is e-sealed by its issuing authority. No need to include a non-repudiable proof-of-possession signature of the holder. Having that in addition would just introduce legal ambiguity and information asymmetry to the disadvantage of the holder.

The opponent may still claim that the car rental place is showing a copy that was obtained illegally, and not in holder presentation. To avoid such a claim, the car rental company should ask for a qualified e-signature before providing the car key. The signed data can include any relevant claims that both parties confirm as part of the transaction. To provide similar assurance to the customer, the company should counter-sign that document, or provide it pre-sealed if it is an automated process.

Note that with the EU Digital Identity, creating qualified e-signatures is just as easy as presenting digital credentials.

[moffkalast]

I mean it's not a super big deal if the EU identity private key leaks in some arcane attack or if someone steals it the normal way, you can just cancel it and order a new one like a credit card. It expires every two years I think anyway.

This reminds me of a specific number that Americans have to give in plain text as proof of digital identity that they only get one of and can't change it ever. Lol.

[sunk1st]

That doesn’t matter. The claim being made by the grandparent post is that the legal system isn’t well-equipped to deal with scenarios like, “yes the digital signature is valid but it was improperly authorized.”

[toast0]

> This reminds me of a specific number that Americans have to give in plain text as proof of digital identity that they only get one of and can't change it ever. Lol.

You can get up to ten replacements of your card in your lifetime. They do all have the same number though.

[1] https://secure.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0110205400

[the_sleaze_]

Well, at least you can laminate it

[dwaite]

Can you go into a bit more detail on what you see as the problem in non-repudiation of presentation?

[sandij]

Non-repudiation of commitments to a transaction can be good when both parties want to avoid later disputes about the authenticity of these commitments. It requires careful design of the data to be signed, the public key certificates, the policies governing the signature creation and validation processes, and the signature formats to enable validation as long as needed.

Attribute presentation is not designed for this feature. When attribute presentation becomes non-repudiable, it creates legal uncertainty:

1. In court, the verifier may now present the proof of possession as evidence. But this is, at least in the EU, not recognised by default as an e-signature. It is yet unknown if it would be interpreted as such by a court. So the verifier keeps a risk that will be difficult for them to assess.

2. Even if it would be recognised as evidence, the holder may argue that it is a replay of a presentation made in another transaction. Presentation protocols are not designed for timestamp assurance towards third parties, and generally do not include verifiable transaction information.

3. The verifier may protect itself by audit-logging attribute presentation input and output along with publicly verifiable timestamps and verifiable transaction information, and by editing its terms and conditions to claim a priori non-repudiation of any presentation. Typically such a solution would not create the same evidence files at the holder’s side. So the holder would not be able to present as strong evidence in court as the verifier. (This asymmetry aspect needs some more elaboration.)

Non-repudiation is well arranged in EU law for e-signatures. If anyone would want the same for attribute presentation, this should involve changes in law. As far as I can see, non-repudiation is now opportunistically being considered in mDL/EUDI just from an isolated technical perspective.

[sandij]

Another issue with non-repudiation of presentation is that it encourages relying parties to log full transcripts of presentation interactions. It could also encourage supervisory bodies to request such over-complete logging. Instead, relying parties should log the minimum necessary, to avoid developing a honeypot of personal data.

[namibj]

Can you make the comparison to the German eID (notable for it's unusually extensive privacy-preserving tactics)?

[sandij]

I’m not sure what the German eID uses today, but the German architecture team has explored KEM+MAC for the EU Digital Identity Wallet. Maybe its eID is similar. You can apply KEM+MAC at either or both of two points:

1. plausible deniability of the document’s issuer seal

2. plausible deniability of having presented the document

The second is great for legal certainty for the user. The first has problems. It would be incompatible with qualified e-sealing; stakeholders have no evidence if issuer integrity was compromised.

Also, it would mean that issuance happens under user control, during presentation to a relying party. In a fully decentralised wallet architecture, this means including the trusted issuer KEM key pair on the user’s phone. Compromising the issuance process, for example by extracting the trusted issuer KEM key pair, could enable the attacker to impersonate all German natural persons online.

The advantage would have been that authenticity the content of stolen documents could be denied. This potentially makes it less interesting to steal a pile of issued documents and sell it illegally. But how would illegal buyers really value qualified authenticity e-seals on leaked personal data?