[explaininjs]

Curious what you want from a jailbreak at this point? It seems all of the old things that were actually helpful have found them into first party software, or at least in the sanctioned third party. (internet tethering, emulators, side loaded apps, etc.)

[mdaniel]

I thank goodness I haven't been subjected to (mobile) Apple for many years in order to speak to what they "allow" and don't nowadays, but the short answer is that I want to *fucking own* the hardware I pay fuckloads of money to purchase

Also, while I was typing out the "I want f-droid.org for iOS" I realized there is a pragmatic answer: I want to build and distribute apps without having to pay for the right to do so, not because I am stingy but because paying is gatekeeping. Do you know how much the Joplin devs have to pay Google to put this .apk link here[1]? $0

1: https://joplinapp.org/help/install/#mobile-applications

[explaininjs]

That’s a web app, it’s on them if they don’t want to offer their services without requiring me to let them out of the web sandbox.

[fragmede]

Internet tethering is actually one that's gone backwards, with "unlimited" cellphone plans that are limited when tethering. Or plans that disable tethering even though all the software is there.

The other thing from a jailbreak would be for it to become self hosting, that is, give the ability to make full blown iPhone ipa on an iOS device without needing a macOS device anywhere at all.

[dwaite]

> Internet tethering is actually one that's gone backwards, with "unlimited" cellphone plans that are limited when tethering. Or plans that disable tethering even though all the software is there.

The internet tethering limits are in the contract though. Surely the primary goal for jailbreaking isn't just theft of service?

> The other thing from a jailbreak would be for it to become self hosting, that is, give the ability to make full blown iPhone ipa on an iOS device without needing a macOS device anywhere at all.

You can create full-fledged local apps, or publish them for free or sale in the App Store using Playgrounds on an iPad.

The primary limitations are in things like typing speed and screen real estate as well as UX complexity and side-by-side debugging, none of which directly change with an active jailbreak.

[explaininjs]

As someone who does a ton of networking/routing at the link layer for a day job, I can definitely see why they’re taking measures to reduce bandwidth hogs - to the extent I might actually prefer to be on a network that has taken measures to reduce hogging vs one that has not.

When it really truly matters, like when I have a business need to download huge items in remote areas, the $10/GB+ justifies itself.

[RulerOf]

I have a fairly simple list:

- a weekly, scheduled reboot of the device

- an iMessage addon that can auto-respond with `stop` to every political spam message I get

- an iMessage addon that would let me filter, categorize, and display messages in a manner I choose instead of a Big Dumb List, like we've had for email for decades

- an iMessage addon for services like Beeper

- an iMessage addon that ... I smell a pattern