Yes. This is the reasonable position to take. Fighting isn't normal. Nobody should be able to use physical size/strength as a way to impose their will on someone else. Fighting should be treated exactly like rape.
You can also find plenty of examples where in fights, someone got thrown to the ground on their head, and got a concussion. That shit can be life altering.
By your logic, half or more of all children would be in prison before they even hit 10 years old. Fighting and violence is very normal, and it takes a lot of teaching and social pressure to make it as rare as it is.
I think it's very weird to say that fighting should be treated the same as rape. Come on, everybody has had some kind of fights in their life. Everyone is angry sometimes and has at least the urge to do harm to someone else that they're very angry at, because they feel unfairly treated for example. And some people might actually have very difficult lives or psychological situations, and the chances for them to have such feelings and the chance for them to snap is higher.
The solution in many cases I would say is not punishment / imprisonment, but rather help, in the form of therapy or education or something. Of course some restrictions and some kind of warning and period where you are watched more closely are suitable, but it doesn't have to be hard punishment right away.
Fighting is unethical, but many prisons and law cases are much more unethical than most fights.
Ings, now 18, was given the DPP at Reading Crown Court in April, after pleading guilty to two robberies and two common assaults, while asking that a further four robberies, one attempted robbery and one assault occasioning actual bodily harm be taken into consideration.
This person has a longer record than a “couple” fights. I’m not the person you replied to but I support life imprisonment unless there is certainty of there being no future victims. It could be you, or me, or our family members that suffers due to an irresponsible release of a dangerous person. And it happens all the time, unfortunately.
As an example, in Seattle there was a documentary called “Seattle is Dying” that covered the trend of crimes and repeat offenders, due to the city’s lenient restorative justice policies. A person featured in that documentary had been arrested nearly 50 times and convicted more than 35 times. But he was nevertheless released back into the streets, due to progressive restorative justice policies. He ultimately murdered his girlfriend before killing himself, inside the infamous CHAZ/CHOP autonomous zone:
ActorNightly|1 year ago
You can also find plenty of examples where in fights, someone got thrown to the ground on their head, and got a concussion. That shit can be life altering.
t-3|1 year ago
gitaarik|1 year ago
The solution in many cases I would say is not punishment / imprisonment, but rather help, in the form of therapy or education or something. Of course some restrictions and some kind of warning and period where you are watched more closely are suitable, but it doesn't have to be hard punishment right away.
Fighting is unethical, but many prisons and law cases are much more unethical than most fights.
WillPostForFood|1 year ago
Not just a couple fights.
blackeyeblitzar|1 year ago
As an example, in Seattle there was a documentary called “Seattle is Dying” that covered the trend of crimes and repeat offenders, due to the city’s lenient restorative justice policies. A person featured in that documentary had been arrested nearly 50 times and convicted more than 35 times. But he was nevertheless released back into the streets, due to progressive restorative justice policies. He ultimately murdered his girlfriend before killing himself, inside the infamous CHAZ/CHOP autonomous zone:
https://komonews.com/news/operation-crime-justice/travis-ber...
rcstank|1 year ago