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mixtureoftakes | 1 year ago

TLDR - 2x cheaper, slightly smarter, and they only compare those new models to their own old ones. Does google have moat?

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usaar333|1 year ago

The math score exceeds o1-preview (though not mini or o1 full) fwiw.

cj|1 year ago

Moat could be things like direct integration into Gmail (ask it to find your last 5 receipts from Amazon), Drive (chat with PDF), Slides (create images / flow charts), etc.

Not sure if their models are the moat. But they definitely have an opportunity from the productization perspective.

But so does Microsoft.

svara|1 year ago

Have you tried the Gemini Gmail integration? I have that enabled in my GSuite account.

It's incredible how bad it is. I've seen it claim I've never received mail from a certain person, while the email was open right next to the chat widget. I've seen it tell me to use the standard search tool, when that wasn't suitable for the query. I've literally never had it find anything that wouldn't have been easier to find with the regular search.

I mean, it's a really obvious thing for them to do, I'm genuinely confused why they released it like that.

ethbr1|1 year ago

Doesn't Microsoft also get OpenAI IP, if they run out of money?

re-thc|1 year ago

> Does google have moat?

Potentially (depends if the EU cares)...

E.g. integration with Google search (instead of ChatGPT's Bing search), providing map data, android integration, etc...